Would you use Active Hearing Protection during a Home Invasion? - Page 3

jg0001 · February 17, 2009, 06:14 PM

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No. I want to hear my target. Besides, its better to be deaf and alive rather than dead with perfect hearing.

Don't forget, we're talking electronic muffs, not plain muffs/plugs. I'll be hearing the target better than you. Any short after a FIRST shot is fired, I WILL STILL be able to hear the target, while they will likely be momentarily deaf. That is a huge advantage, I'd think.

ElectricHellfire · February 17, 2009, 06:39 PM

Either way (active/passive) I just dont think I am gonna jump up and then start gearing up with noise amplifiers and night vision goggles etc. For me, its pretty much gonna be me, a light and a gun. I don't want to be wasting time fumbling around in the dark with extra gear only to get holed by an intruder after finally getting all my equipment together. Honestly, IMO it borders on the mall ninja spectrum of things. IMO!

I mean am I supposed to be sleeping in these things? I don't know maybe I'm unprepared.

publius · February 17, 2009, 09:24 PM

first, I want things to be as simple as possible, grab my shotgun or pistol and flashlight. Dial 911 if I think there's time. deal with the threat, hopefully by retreating. I don't want anything to interfere with my natural hearing. Things could sound closer or farther than actual, or just not right. don't count out the possibility of dead batteries, and with the almost certain adrenaline dump you may not realize it.

armsmaster270 · February 18, 2009, 01:37 AM

Having been in an actual indoor shooting I did not even notice the shot I fired. and that was with a +P+ round.

Al Thompson · February 18, 2009, 01:10 PM

Well, I'll give this a try when I get mine. Frankly, it's a time issue - if I've got time, no problem with the electronic hearing enhancement. If it's a violent attack, obviously it's "grab gun and repel boarders".

pepe1 · February 20, 2009, 12:07 AM

I've got Peltors, they work great on the range. But, they're dead half the time, granted it's because I forget to turn them off. When you put them on you have to mess with them briefly to figure out if one or both sides are working. Doesn't seem to me to be the kind of thing I want to mess with in the dark with a threat in the house. On the other hand, if I were the aggressor and had time to get set before I acted they'd make a lot of sense.

2kflhr · February 20, 2009, 12:54 AM

I was involved in a shoot out and only had a .380 on me at the time. I fired 6 rounds emptying my magazine sitting inside a vehicle and honestly can't remember the noise being excessive. At the range it would have been and I think in certain situations your unaffected by by things that would normally bother you. it makes no sense but was unaffected never the less.

For me, if in an emergency situation hearing protection will not be considered when seconds count.

Stevie-Ray · February 20, 2009, 04:22 PM

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Having been in an actual indoor shooting I did not even notice the shot I fired. and that was with a +P+ round.

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I fired 6 rounds emptying my magazine sitting inside a vehicle and honestly can't remember the noise being excessive. At the range it would have been and I think in certain situations your unaffected by by things that would normally bother you. it makes no sense but was unaffected never the less.

Guys, auditory exclusion has zero to do with losing your hearing. It's benefit is temporary for the here and now only. You are STILL doing damage to your hearing.

11bravo_2papa · February 20, 2009, 04:35 PM

i have been in a few situations were i have fired indoors with my ears unprotected. i would not recommend this often obviously but i never noticed any repercussions after the fact. something to think about is say you go down stairs and shoot the perp with your ear pro on, and for some reason you end up in court. one could say by you putting on your ear pro you went down stairs with the intent to shoot.

Webleymkv · February 20, 2009, 06:09 PM

I wouldn't but not for the reasons mentioned. If I were a cop and showed up at the scene of a shooting and found the shooter wearing electronic ear-muffs, it would suggest to me that perhaps the shooter was expecting the shootee and would therefore make his claim of self-defense seem a bit sucspicious.

Erik · February 21, 2009, 02:12 AM

And what of your gun? By that logic its mere possession could damn you.

VonFireball · February 21, 2009, 11:35 AM

I think if I woke up to someone trying to jimmy the door, the last thing that I'm gonna be thinking about is putting on ear protection.

Personally, I'm more concerned with having my clothes on. I don't want to have hand to hand combat in my underwear or my birthday suit.

Therefore, I "tactically" sleep in my jeans. I'd leave my boots on if I could tolerate it, but that usually makes for a lot of tossing and turning.

February 17, 2009, 06:39 PM	#52
ElectricHellfire Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2008 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,271	Either way (active/passive) I just dont think I am gonna jump up and then start gearing up with noise amplifiers and night vision goggles etc. For me, its pretty much gonna be me, a light and a gun. I don't want to be wasting time fumbling around in the dark with extra gear only to get holed by an intruder after finally getting all my equipment together. Honestly, IMO it borders on the mall ninja spectrum of things. IMO! I mean am I supposed to be sleeping in these things? I don't know maybe I'm unprepared. __________________ *Texas, the only State to Have Ever Kicked Another Country's Butt*

February 17, 2009, 09:24 PM	#53
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,349	first, I want things to be as simple as possible, grab my shotgun or pistol and flashlight. Dial 911 if I think there's time. deal with the threat, hopefully by retreating. I don't want anything to interfere with my natural hearing. Things could sound closer or farther than actual, or just not right. don't count out the possibility of dead batteries, and with the almost certain adrenaline dump you may not realize it. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

February 18, 2009, 01:37 AM	#54
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,764	Having been in an actual indoor shooting I did not even notice the shot I fired. and that was with a +P+ round. __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

February 18, 2009, 01:10 PM	#55
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,574	Well, I'll give this a try when I get mine. Frankly, it's a time issue - if I've got time, no problem with the electronic hearing enhancement. If it's a violent attack, obviously it's "grab gun and repel boarders". __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

February 20, 2009, 06:09 PM	#60
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,418	I wouldn't but not for the reasons mentioned. If I were a cop and showed up at the scene of a shooting and found the shooter wearing electronic ear-muffs, it would suggest to me that perhaps the shooter was expecting the shootee and would therefore make his claim of self-defense seem a bit sucspicious. __________________ Smith, and Wesson, and Me. -H. Callahan Well waddaya know, one buwwet weft! -E. Fudd All bad precedents begin as justifiable measures. -J. Caesar

February 20, 2009, 12:07 AM	#56
pepe1 Junior Member Join Date: November 19, 2007 Posts: 5	I've got Peltors, they work great on the range. But, they're dead half the time, granted it's because I forget to turn them off. When you put them on you have to mess with them briefly to figure out if one or both sides are working. Doesn't seem to me to be the kind of thing I want to mess with in the dark with a threat in the house. On the other hand, if I were the aggressor and had time to get set before I acted they'd make a lot of sense.

February 20, 2009, 12:54 AM	#57
2kflhr Member Join Date: January 13, 2009 Posts: 43	I was involved in a shoot out and only had a .380 on me at the time. I fired 6 rounds emptying my magazine sitting inside a vehicle and honestly can't remember the noise being excessive. At the range it would have been and I think in certain situations your unaffected by by things that would normally bother you. it makes no sense but was unaffected never the less. For me, if in an emergency situation hearing protection will not be considered when seconds count.

February 20, 2009, 04:35 PM	#59
11bravo_2papa Member Join Date: February 20, 2009 Location: CONNECTICUT Posts: 41	i have been in a few situations were i have fired indoors with my ears unprotected. i would not recommend this often obviously but i never noticed any repercussions after the fact. something to think about is say you go down stairs and shoot the perp with your ear pro on, and for some reason you end up in court. one could say by you putting on your ear pro you went down stairs with the intent to shoot.

February 21, 2009, 02:12 AM	#61
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	And what of your gun? By that logic its mere possession could damn you. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

February 21, 2009, 11:35 AM	#62
VonFireball Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 354	I think if I woke up to someone trying to jimmy the door, the last thing that I'm gonna be thinking about is putting on ear protection. Personally, I'm more concerned with having my clothes on. I don't want to have hand to hand combat in my underwear or my birthday suit. Therefore, I "tactically" sleep in my jeans. I'd leave my boots on if I could tolerate it, but that usually makes for a lot of tossing and turning.