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Old June 23, 2007, 10:20 AM   #1
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M-1 Garand Barrel replacement

Gentlemen;
I have an M-1 Garand that I purchased through the DCM (before it was the CMP) Overall, it's in NRA good condition, reliable and fairly accurate. (4" groups @ 100yd) The rifling at the muzzle has been worn away probably by many GIs cleaning it. I want to replace the barrel with a new one, preferably match grade. Are special tools needed to do this? Or is it a better idea to have a gunsmith familiar with the Garand to do this work?
Also, any guess on the cost of such work?

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Old June 23, 2007, 12:35 PM   #2
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Barrel replacement is a special tools, special skills process, M1 moreso than a bolt action. Seek out somebody experienced on the Garand. Probably some gunsmiths recommended on the CMP board.
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Old June 23, 2007, 03:13 PM   #3
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If it's only the rifling at the crown of the barrel ( very common with military rifles) then one easy solution is to have the barrel counter bored for about an inch Quick, easy, and a whole lot cheaper and doesn't hurt the accuracy
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Old June 23, 2007, 05:27 PM   #4
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Boring out the barrel on an M1 can cause problems due to the early drop in gas pressure. And it has to be done carefully or it can make things worse instead of better. It is not a hand drill job.

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Old June 23, 2007, 07:04 PM   #5
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I spent an hour on the CMP board & found no references to gunsmiths. tried a Google search & got a lot of advertizing but no real smiths.
Any one have knowledge of a quality M1 familiar smith in the south Florida area?

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Old June 23, 2007, 07:23 PM   #6
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bbl.

Sir:
You can obtain a new bbl, contoured, etc, from Douglass bbls. in Charleston W.Va.
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Old June 23, 2007, 07:46 PM   #7
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Don't know him but he is recommend on another gun broad. I would do it for you but I'm not in Fl
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Old June 23, 2007, 07:47 PM   #8
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You can obtain a new bbl, contoured, etc, from Douglass bbls. in Charleston W.Va.
Or Krieger if you want another top notch barrel option.

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Old June 23, 2007, 08:05 PM   #9
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The guys on the National Match board think highly of Dean at DGR in Tennessee. (I have NO experience with him.) Of course that means you would have to ship your rifle or at least the barrelled action instead of walking in someplace in Florida. Sorry.
http://www.dgrguns.com/0-main-page-barrels.htm
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Old June 23, 2007, 09:18 PM   #10
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Old June 23, 2007, 10:37 PM   #11
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The guys on the National Match board think highly of Dean at DGR in Tennessee. (I have NO experience with him.) Of course that means you would have to ship your rifle or at least the barrelled action instead of walking in someplace in Florida. Sorry.

I do...

He just restored an old Blue Sky Garand that I had picked up cheap in the 90s. He did one helluva job on mine

He will replace the barrel or has some barrels made to GI specs.

My Garand that DGR did...which is still match legal

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...&highlight=DGR

I would be dangerous with a rifle if my eyes were not so bad.....
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Old June 24, 2007, 10:52 AM   #12
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Best Garand info start

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Old June 27, 2007, 08:21 PM   #13
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Thank you Gentlemen;

I have made contact with DGR and plan to send my beloved M1 in for a new barrel and perhaps some trigger work.

Your feedback is appreciated and the future targets will feel the results thereof.

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Old June 30, 2007, 08:22 PM   #14
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I had him do a NM trigger job on mine too
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Old July 1, 2007, 07:32 PM   #15
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Read an interesting article about barrels on the Fulton Armory website. They made an effort to point out the superiority of cut rifling like the somewhat expensive Kreiger barrels. Especially since the barrels are so thin at the end. Sounded plausable to me, but they sell them and install them, so they could be biased, but there is apparently a range of quality of barrels out there. Suppose the Kreiger would be my choice for putting on a keeper or match gun. I once had a Citadel put on a Garand though, and it seemed satisfactory to me, not as if I shoot for competition. SOme have said that brand used to be junk, now is better, etc. but it is certainly cheaper. I would not dream of rebarreling a Garand myself, with no experience. SOme folks out there have done a ton of the M1 barrels though and know the tricks and how to make a good safe shooter. But I don't know any down south from experience.
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Old July 1, 2007, 08:49 PM   #16
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The Barnett Douglas military contour match barrel Dean installed for me is good enough because the only way I would be able to shoot tighter groups is from a
mechanized rest.
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Old July 5, 2007, 10:22 AM   #17
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If, by chance, you're going to Camp Perry this month, they have expert M-1 gunsmiths on site that can do a barrel change while you wait. You can buy one there or bring your own.
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Old July 5, 2007, 03:48 PM   #18
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Camp Perry! Don't I wish. Back when I shot in Bullseye competition, I had plans to attend Camp Perry and to compete. Alas the time, $, and motivation never all came together. Maybe someday.

Many thanks to all for the suggestions ideas and names. The old Garand will be sporting a new tube within 6 months.

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Old July 10, 2007, 03:49 AM   #19
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Roland Beaver of Bald Knob, Ark. faced lifted my M1 with new wood and a Douglas Supreme barrel and parkerizing job.



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Old February 14, 2009, 01:35 PM   #20
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M1 barrels

I have installed over a 100 M1A/M1 barrels and the majority have been the Barrnett barrels and I have never had one that did not shoot excellent. I have one I just did for myself, that I bought from Brownells, a Douglas/Barrnett M1, 1-10, GI conture in 30-06 and I have shot a 100-9X clean sitting. I used the 173 NM bullets I bought at Perry years ago with N140.
I have installed the other (expensive makes) and they shot very good also, but I always seem to go back to the Douglas barrels contured by Gene Barnett.
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Old February 14, 2009, 02:04 PM   #21
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I'm with the Major,

I have replaced several barrels on M1s & M14/M1As. I wouldnt use any thing but Barnets barrels.

I used them on my Rifle Teams (AK NG) M14s.

Also, if you can get him to do it, Gene doe's excellent work on converting standard M1As into Super Matches. He did mine. My only complaint is you cant get Bishop stocks anymore.

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Old February 14, 2009, 02:35 PM   #22
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When I picked up Hatcher's Notebook back in the 60s I also picked up his book Book Of The Garand. I valued both books due to the fact that Hatcher was there when the rifle was being developed. His brother even had a competing model that was sidelined.

10 years ago I traded into a Garand and the fella threw in everything he had with the rifle. Included in all the gear were 2 books:

1) Duff's book The M1 Garand:Owner's Guide

2) Kuhnhausen's book The U.S. .30 Caliber Gas Operated Service Rifles Vol. I & II.

I noticed that the Kuhnhausen book was pretty detailed in gunsmithing and customizing. Perhaps this might be a good book to get for reference. There are sure a lot of pictures and schematics along with special tooling you can make.

Just a thought.
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