benelli M1 question

ROFOCALE · January 13, 2009, 12:55 AM

I bought a benelli shotgun a couple years ago from Turners outdoors man. It has a built on muzzle break from benelli. They said only 500 were made. Can't find any info of any benelli shotguns with factory muzzle breaks. Anyone have any info? Checked benelli website and the web no luck.

Scattergun Bob · January 13, 2009, 01:08 AM

What is the serial# on your M1S90 first 4 only. I am looking to see if it is a H&K or a after H&K model.

I have fairly good knowledge of the M1-S90 early and mid models and NONE came with a factory breaching device.

Late models with threaded barrels did have some "tactical Breaches" as aftermarket items. Royal Arms did make REAL breaching devices for a short time, but lets face it folks BREACHING is not the niche for this race horse.

Creeper · January 13, 2009, 02:34 AM

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It has a built on muzzle break from Benelli. They said only 500 were made.

Any good photos? Any way to verify it's a Benelli piece... logo, number, that kind of thing?
Is it a recoil brake/flash reducer type device or a more "open ended" breaching extension?

Curious to see this... sounds very interesting.

C

ROFOCALE · January 13, 2009, 09:01 AM

here are some pictures. serial number MS11369

Scattergun Bob · January 13, 2009, 10:54 AM

That is a very unusual barrel. Note the link to Royal Arms, go to breaching barrels, at the bottom of the page is your device, "I think" http://www.royalarms.com/.

What is unusual about your barrel is the distance between the front sight and the muzzle, that is much longer than a standard Benelli barrel. What is VERY interesting is that it looks like this is a permanent attachment ADDED to a standard 14" entry barrel configuration!

It looks to me like you may have a very wild and unusual factory modification or a well done custom modification. I do find this devise (breacher/muzzle) as a thread on in my one of my LE products books from Heckler & Koch dated 5/1995, however this is for a threaded choke barrel and would show a muzzle swell for factory threading.

Looks very elegant and makes you a very lucky man!

Good Luck & Be Safe

SR420 · January 13, 2009, 10:58 AM

I remember seeing those in gun shops a few years ago... it's a factory gun.

Creeper · January 13, 2009, 02:36 PM

ROFOCALE, I'd have to agree with SG Bob... The device in your photo looks identical to the one in the next to last photo in Royal Arms web page.
I'm inclined to believe it's a custom job as well, or perhaps a limited run - US distributor - LE only modification... than something coming directly from Benelli and/or HK as a catalog item.
What ever it is... Royal Arms must have had a hand in it at some point.

Sure is cool though!

C

ROFOCALE · January 13, 2009, 08:36 PM

Does royalarms do custom barrels for factory guns? The breacher attachment looks very close. Is there a way to contact benelli directly maybe they could shed some light.

Scattergun Bob · January 13, 2009, 11:45 PM

It has been 10 years since I have done business with Royal, but at that point YES they did custom barrel adaptations for some very high speed low drag custom gun makers. I would try calling Royal and asking about your gun. My old contact Butch Anderson is long retired, so I can't do you much good.

Nice gun S90's rock the house!

Good Luck & Be Safe

ROFOCALE · January 14, 2009, 06:44 AM

Thanks for the info and lead. I have another question for you Bob. I been looking for a 10 gauge double barrel side by side. Does anyone still produce these monsters? Again thanks for the info.

Scattergun Bob · January 14, 2009, 07:00 AM

I am just the dumb guy on this forum with WAY too many Fighting Scatterguns, that is where my passion and experience lays. I would not know a good 10 Ga s/s from a poor one.

The guys that I listen to about that stuff are Zippy 13 and BigJim, of course there are many others, but I just feel confident in recommending these two. They always respond to my P/M's, give them a try.

Glad I could help, By the way, I you ever get tired of your pretty little S90, drop me a line, there is always room in my safe for another full race scattergun like that!

ROFOCALE · January 14, 2009, 07:15 AM

Thanks bob. If I plan on letting my benelli go I will keep you in mind. I'm trying to sell or trade a AR-15.

Creeper · January 14, 2009, 03:34 PM

PM me about the AR... and trade interests.

C

ROFOCALE · January 15, 2009, 12:12 AM

How do I pm you, creeper?

Creeper · January 15, 2009, 02:14 PM

Easy... click on my screen name, then click on "send a private message to Creeper".

C

January 13, 2009, 12:55 AM	#1
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	benelli M1 question I bought a benelli shotgun a couple years ago from Turners outdoors man. It has a built on muzzle break from benelli. They said only 500 were made. Can't find any info of any benelli shotguns with factory muzzle breaks. Anyone have any info? Checked benelli website and the web no luck.

January 13, 2009, 01:08 AM	#2
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,185	Rofocale What is the serial# on your M1S90 first 4 only. I am looking to see if it is a H&K or a after H&K model. I have fairly good knowledge of the M1-S90 early and mid models and NONE came with a factory breaching device. Late models with threaded barrels did have some "tactical Breaches" as aftermarket items. Royal Arms did make REAL breaching devices for a short time, but lets face it folks BREACHING is not the niche for this race horse. __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob

January 13, 2009, 10:54 AM	#5
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,185	Rofocale That is a very unusual barrel. Note the link to Royal Arms, go to breaching barrels, at the bottom of the page is your device, "I think" http://www.royalarms.com/. What is unusual about your barrel is the distance between the front sight and the muzzle, that is much longer than a standard Benelli barrel. What is VERY interesting is that it looks like this is a permanent attachment ADDED to a standard 14" entry barrel configuration! It looks to me like you may have a very wild and unusual factory modification or a well done custom modification. I do find this devise (breacher/muzzle) as a thread on in my one of my LE products books from Heckler & Koch dated 5/1995, however this is for a threaded choke barrel and would show a muzzle swell for factory threading. Looks very elegant and makes you a very lucky man! Good Luck & Be Safe __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob Last edited by Scattergun Bob; January 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM.

January 13, 2009, 10:58 AM	#6
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Posts: 2,543	I remember seeing those in gun shops a few years ago... it's a factory gun. __________________ facebook.com/M14HDW.US

January 13, 2009, 02:36 PM	#7
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,793	ROFOCALE, I'd have to agree with SG Bob... The device in your photo looks identical to the one in the next to last photo in Royal Arms web page. I'm inclined to believe it's a custom job as well, or perhaps a limited run - US distributor - LE only modification... than something coming directly from Benelli and/or HK as a catalog item. What ever it is... Royal Arms must have had a hand in it at some point. Sure is cool though! C __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club

January 13, 2009, 09:01 AM	#4
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	here are some pictures. serial number MS11369

January 13, 2009, 08:36 PM	#8
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	Does royalarms do custom barrels for factory guns? The breacher attachment looks very close. Is there a way to contact benelli directly maybe they could shed some light.

January 13, 2009, 11:45 PM	#9
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,185	Rofocale It has been 10 years since I have done business with Royal, but at that point YES they did custom barrel adaptations for some very high speed low drag custom gun makers. I would try calling Royal and asking about your gun. My old contact Butch Anderson is long retired, so I can't do you much good. Nice gun S90's rock the house! Good Luck & Be Safe __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob

January 14, 2009, 06:44 AM	#10
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	thanks bob Thanks for the info and lead. I have another question for you Bob. I been looking for a 10 gauge double barrel side by side. Does anyone still produce these monsters? Again thanks for the info.

January 14, 2009, 07:00 AM	#11
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,185	Rofocale I am just the dumb guy on this forum with WAY too many Fighting Scatterguns, that is where my passion and experience lays. I would not know a good 10 Ga s/s from a poor one. The guys that I listen to about that stuff are Zippy 13 and BigJim, of course there are many others, but I just feel confident in recommending these two. They always respond to my P/M's, give them a try. Glad I could help, By the way, I you ever get tired of your pretty little S90, drop me a line, there is always room in my safe for another full race scattergun like that! __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob Last edited by Scattergun Bob; January 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM.

January 14, 2009, 07:15 AM	#12
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	Thanks bob. If I plan on letting my benelli go I will keep you in mind. I'm trying to sell or trade a AR-15.

January 14, 2009, 03:34 PM	#13
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,793	PM me about the AR... and trade interests. C __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club

January 15, 2009, 12:12 AM	#14
ROFOCALE Member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Posts: 21	How do I pm you, creeper?

January 15, 2009, 02:14 PM	#15
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,793	Easy... click on my screen name, then click on "send a private message to Creeper". C __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club