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Old December 28, 2008, 08:40 PM   #101
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"do you carry +1 ?"

Yes, I carry fully loaded.
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Old December 29, 2008, 11:51 PM   #102
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Always carry a round in the chamber my friend. No use carrying an automatic gun when you have to rack the slide during emergency right? In the house, as a rule my guns are always chamber loaded (safeties on of course) including the Galil issued by the Philippine goverment. I mean, it is a matter of "getting used" to it. MERRY XTMAS TO ALL.
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Old December 30, 2008, 12:12 AM   #103
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Full mag +1 in the pistol, full mag in my pocket. Why wouldnt you carry a mag at the capacity it was designed for?
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Old December 30, 2008, 01:42 AM   #104
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I carry a revolver. Always loaded and ready!
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Old December 30, 2008, 08:45 AM   #105
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Yup! Always +1 in the chamber and mag topped off.
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Old January 1, 2009, 07:08 PM   #106
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One thing I like to ALWAYS do when I post in a thread is to be sure I read the entire thread before I post. I do this in the hope to avoid saying something that's already been said. Because I don't get here every day, many threads get l-o-n-g and so I tend to skip the long threads because I don't have time to read the whole thread.

This topic specifically interests me, so I will post, but I apologize now-- I haven't read the whole thing! I plan to as soon as it reloads after my post.

I carry minus-1. My mag holds 10, so I carry 9 in it, and one in the chamber. (Glock 29) My reason is that there is a DEFINITE difference in resistance when I manually pull the slide on my pistol when the magazine is full.

Will that resistance from the FULL mag keep my pistol from cycling? I don't think so, but I've (so far...) forgotten to test the damn theory at the range. So, until I've range tested it, I won't do it. I also have four new magazines for the pistol I've purchased, but I won't carry ANY of those until they've been range tested, either.

It's my belief that if I can't solve it in 10, 11 isn't going to do it. It's not about "saving my magazine spring", it's quite simply that a fully loaded 10-rd Glock 29 magazine puts extreme pressure on the bottom of the slide of this pistol, and it makes a very noticeable difference when I pull the slide back, so I need to fully and surely range test it before I'll carry it.

Until I range test a fully loaded mag and 10+1 carry, I won't carry that way. That works for me.
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Old January 1, 2009, 09:28 PM   #107
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Interesting, and I'm glad you posted that. I just got a G29, but haven't tried it out yet. I'll experiment also with my first trip to the range.
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Old January 2, 2009, 03:32 AM   #108
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I have carried and shot my G29 for coming on eight years. (And this has been my favorite CCW during that time.)

I always have a full mag, even with +1. Never had a bit of problems with any of the mags or the pistol because of it. I also use G20 mags with the G29. All of mine have been trouble free.

I do admit that filling up the 10 round mags is a chore when they are brand spanking new. I always start out with nine until they are "broken in" and then get in that last round.

I did "test" a few of the mags, leaving them full for a couple of years without using them. All went as advertised when finally used up at the range, and still work flawlessly.

Just my experiences.

Only real problem that I have ever had happen to me, and seen someone else duplicate with a different G29, is I can definitely have problems if "limp wristing". Good grip on pistol, no problems.
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Old January 2, 2009, 09:40 AM   #109
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Great info and appreciate you sharing that advice.

I have the G29 in front of me now and it's like this: With the slide forward and in to battery with an empty chamber, I insert a full (10) magazine. There's significant resistance in seating the magazine. I can seat it, for sure, but compared a mag with 9 rounds, the resistance is MUCH greater.

After the magazine is inserted, the resistance in pulling the slide to the rear, to slingshot the slide and load the pistol is also increased. Not impossible for sure, but without a doubt, there's more resistance than when racking the slide with any lesser number of rounds in the magazine.

It's a Glock, I'm sure it would feed under MUCH worse conditions, but those are things I've noticed and it's easy to feel the difference and the increased resistance.

Anyway, I'm sure you are correct and I've just over-thought the situation. But I wonder if an 8-year pistol (or better yet, an 8-year old magazine) offers the same amount of added pull weight?

Try it yourself, see if you notice the difference.
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Old January 2, 2009, 09:44 AM   #110
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Only real problem that I have ever had happen to me, and seen someone else duplicate with a different G29, is I can definitely have problems if "limp wristing". Good grip on pistol, no problems.
I haven't been successful in attempts to get the pistol to misfeed. I hope it stays that way! If I have two complaints about the pistol it's that I'd like a bit more room under the trigger guard for my middle finger (it gets dinged on each shot) and I wish it were thinner. I'd happily give up 2 or 3 rounds of ammo for a single stack magazine and a thinner profile. It's a small handgun, but it's as wide as a Lamborghini.

But hell, I knew that going in.
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Old January 2, 2009, 02:02 PM   #111
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I always carry +1 you never know when you'll need it.


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Old January 2, 2009, 03:47 PM   #112
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Anyway, I'm sure you are correct and I've just over-thought the situation. But I wonder if an 8-year pistol (or better yet, an 8-year old magazine) offers the same amount of added pull weight?
I think that it is always wise to examine and question the functioning and reliability of one's different handguns. That is one reason that I visit this forum, for all of the great firsthand information!

With my eight year old G29, and mags of that vintage and newer, it is still a tad more difficult to get in the tenth round, it still requires more pressure to seat a fully loaded mag, and there is a small additional amount of effort required to rack the slide with a fully loaded mag. None of these seem excessive to me; but noticeable, yes. I agree with your observations. With my last post I was saying that in my eight years of carrying and shooting my G29, that I have not had any problems due to any of this.

The "limp wristing" problem can happen when I purposefully attempt to make it happen. (And not every time.) Very loose grip on the pistol. I watched someone new to handguns shooting his G29 for the first time have the same problems at the range. This was about 7 years ago. It was corrected for him by using a good "firm" grip. (He was flinching and barely holding onto the pistol.)

Let us know how your G29 proves out at the range, regarding the full mag/slide situation.
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Old January 2, 2009, 03:52 PM   #113
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Dup post, doncha just love timed out?
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Old January 3, 2009, 05:25 AM   #114
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do you carry +1 ?
sure. I can't think of a reason not to.
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Old January 3, 2009, 08:57 AM   #115
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Answer to question is, yes.

A rule of thumb when it comes to mags, capacities and springs is to utilize them the way the manufacture designed them.
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Old January 3, 2009, 09:55 AM   #116
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I have never carried +1 (1911s or a PM9).
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Old January 3, 2009, 10:10 AM   #117
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Old January 3, 2009, 12:33 PM   #118
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I'm still trying to figure out how to fit +1 into my revolver.
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Old January 3, 2009, 05:25 PM   #119
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I'm still trying to figure out how to fir +1 into my revolver.
First of all you have to make it out of revolver-age to be ready for such higher math.

Just kidding. Revolvers have their place still. I'd carry one as backup for hog-hunts etc. Still couldn't resist, sorry
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Old January 3, 2009, 08:20 PM   #120
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Put on in the barrel? Worked with my BB gun??? Duct tape? Super glue? one in the hand as your shooting?
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Old January 3, 2009, 08:24 PM   #121
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yes + spare mag , or bug backup
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Old January 3, 2009, 11:10 PM   #122
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ive had m4/m16 mag springs fail, both from over-usage, and just sitting for a year full of blanks.
I have some 30 round AR15 mags that my dad left FULLY loaded for over 30 years. They fed just fine and I've had no problems.
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