C & R Machine Gun Question...

cchardwick · November 28, 2008, 09:37 PM

I just sent off for the paperwork for a C&R FFL. Just wondering if anyone knows the laws concerning C&R machine guns:

Do you still have to pay the $200 tax stamp?

Do you still have to go through the whole NFA process: background check, fingerprints, months of waiting, LEO signature, etc?

Can you get a machine gun for less money if it's a C&R?

Can they ship it directly to your house?

Wildalaska · November 28, 2008, 09:52 PM

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Can you get a machine gun for less money if it's a C&R?

Go price a MG08 on a Sledge...or even better...a Vickers

WildtimetogohomeAlaska TM

M3 Pilot · November 28, 2008, 10:30 PM

I think the answers are yes,yes,no,yes. Not as sure of the last ans. as I am of the 1st three.

**James K** · November 29, 2008, 01:59 PM

Once the Form 4 paperwork is completed and approved, a C&R machine gun (say an M1928 Thompson SMG) can be shipped or delivered interstate directly to a C&R licensee; there is no need to go through a Class 3 dealer in the buyer's state.

Within a state, the gun can be delivered or shipped directly to anyone, again once Form 4 approval is obtained. No dealer is needed (unless some state law says otherwise).

Jim

Chipperman · November 29, 2008, 03:40 PM

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I think the answers are yes,yes,no,yes.

I agree with M3 Pilot

rkba_net · November 30, 2008, 03:33 AM

A full auto firearm that is on the C&R list allows you to purchase it across state lines... so you do not have to do two transfers... other than that all NFA laws allapy...

HKuser · December 2, 2008, 02:15 PM

Ditto.

Rick61 · December 22, 2008, 02:44 AM

If I'm reading this correctly...
A WWII vintage M2 .50 BMG would fall under the C&R list??

**James K** · December 22, 2008, 07:50 PM

Yes, under the 50-year rule.

Lotsa luck!!!

Jim

Rick61 · December 22, 2008, 09:52 PM

I was curious because I worked for a guy about 16 years ago who was restoring some M2's for military musuems at the time. They had to be 100% so we got to test fire them before shipping them off. I just remember him saying he had a class 3 FFL which was all he needed at the time so now I what he was talking about... altho he let it lapse because he was being hit with a $600 renewal fee.. so maybe it wasn't a FFL 03..?

November 28, 2008, 09:37 PM	#1
cchardwick Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 574	C & R Machine Gun Question... I just sent off for the paperwork for a C&R FFL. Just wondering if anyone knows the laws concerning C&R machine guns: Do you still have to pay the $200 tax stamp? Do you still have to go through the whole NFA process: background check, fingerprints, months of waiting, LEO signature, etc? Can you get a machine gun for less money if it's a C&R? Can they ship it directly to your house?

November 28, 2008, 10:30 PM	#3
M3 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2005 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 142	I think the answers are yes,yes,no,yes. Not as sure of the last ans. as I am of the 1st three. Last edited by M3 Pilot; November 28, 2008 at 10:31 PM. Reason: added comment

November 29, 2008, 01:59 PM	#4
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,617	Once the Form 4 paperwork is completed and approved, a C&R machine gun (say an M1928 Thompson SMG) can be shipped or delivered interstate directly to a C&R licensee; there is no need to go through a Class 3 dealer in the buyer's state. Within a state, the gun can be delivered or shipped directly to anyone, again once Form 4 approval is obtained. No dealer is needed (unless some state law says otherwise). Jim __________________ Jim K

December 22, 2008, 07:50 PM	#9
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,617	Yes, under the 50-year rule. Lotsa luck!!! Jim __________________ Jim K

November 30, 2008, 03:33 AM	#6
rkba_net Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2000 Posts: 153	A full auto firearm that is on the C&R list allows you to purchase it across state lines... so you do not have to do two transfers... other than that all NFA laws allapy...

December 2, 2008, 02:15 PM	#7
HKuser Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2008 Location: PA Posts: 625	Ditto.

December 22, 2008, 02:44 AM	#8
Rick61 Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Posts: 51	If I'm reading this correctly... A WWII vintage M2 .50 BMG would fall under the C&R list??

December 22, 2008, 09:52 PM	#10
Rick61 Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Posts: 51	I was curious because I worked for a guy about 16 years ago who was restoring some M2's for military musuems at the time. They had to be 100% so we got to test fire them before shipping them off. I just remember him saying he had a class 3 FFL which was all he needed at the time so now I what he was talking about... altho he let it lapse because he was being hit with a $600 renewal fee.. so maybe it wasn't a FFL 03..?