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Old November 24, 2008, 11:39 PM   #1
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Can stainless steel pit or rust???

A friend says he has a GP100 stainless that appears to have some sort of pitting/rust spots. Is this possible? I haven't seen this gun, so I can't attest to the accuracy of what's going on with it. Has anyone seen anything like this, and if it's correct what can be done to get rid of it (acid bath, etc.)

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Old November 24, 2008, 11:42 PM   #2
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Yes.
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Old November 25, 2008, 12:13 AM   #3
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Stainless steel can rust. If the rust is on the outside of the gun - not in the barrel - he can buff it out with ScotchBrite. If it's in the barrel, a good cleaning will probably get rid of it unless it is pitted.
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Old November 25, 2008, 12:17 AM   #4
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The better term would be "rust resistant", but the term "stainless" is so ingrained that it will never be changed. And for most purposes, it really is stainless or rust proof. Having just completed the "honeydew" job of polishing the "good" silverware for Turkey day dinner, I can darn well tell you that stainless steel is a LOT better. But the silver sure looks great, if I do say so myself.

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Old November 25, 2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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Stainless is less, not none.

There is still iron in the alloy.

Stainless steels are also prone to corrosion from chlorine (chloride).

Stainless is often 'passivated' after machining.
By dunking the stainless in acid any exposed iron is removed leaving a surface that is less prone to rust formation.
The process also removes any smears of tool steel left behind by cutters used.
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Old November 25, 2008, 02:18 PM   #6
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If you believe SS is really stainless and rust free, look at SS BBQ grills after a couple of seasons. Beneath all the glop, you'll find rusted metal. the chrome, nickle and other alloys gradually vaporize and you're left with iron which rusts.

Sigh, there's not much in this world which wouldn't suffer in that application. Pt maybe, but I don't want to have to store my grill in the bank vault.
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Old November 27, 2008, 11:35 AM   #7
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If it is exposed to the proper corrosive, absolutely.
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Old November 27, 2008, 12:30 PM   #8
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There are what my old company's tool maker used to call "true stainless steels". They are used in surgical instruments and in stainless implants. Can't be having rust going on in your artificial knee. The problem is these alloys are either too soft or too expensive for guns and knives.
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Old November 28, 2008, 08:48 AM   #9
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Polish and wax

Per above, there are many different grades of SS. IIRC, 300 series is more rust resistant than 400 series but not as strong. Differences in the carbon and nickel content. As to your original question: SS can be buffed, polished, ect.. I've even used fine emery paper to put a shine on matte SS. The problem with Rugers is that they do a bead blast type finish on most. If you polish one area, you're going to have to do the whole gun. Ruger might re-do the gun if sent to their service dept.. They recommend a paste wax coating to protect the gun. A friend used to spray his guns with Pledge furniture polish to keep the dust off when displayed. I thought he was nuts at the time but turned out he was actually on to something by accident.
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Old November 28, 2008, 10:33 PM   #10
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I read on one thread some while ago that one of our poor friends who have acidic sweat picked his SS auto up after leaving it for a few days and saw his rusty fingerprints looking back at him. I feel sorry for gun nuts with such sweat!
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Rusters is what another tool maker I knew used to call them. He said you go into their shops and every tool they own is rust brown. Keeps the bacteria count on their hands down, though.

Stainless resists rust in part due to a chromium oxide layer that forms on its surface during passivation. If you bead blast it or corrupt that surface in any way, you have to passivate it over again because free iron has been exposed. In addition to nitric acid passivation, I understand citric acid will passivate, albeit very slowly. Just something to consider trying, since that could be done safely at home. I have no idea what the concentrations of duration of exposure would have to be? You would need to get up to some experimenting with stainless drill rod or other samples to find out.
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Old November 29, 2008, 02:09 PM   #12
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Stainless steel is self-passivating to a large degree. I don't think the gun makers use chemical passivation.
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Old November 29, 2008, 05:59 PM   #13
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While the advantage of stainless over blued steel is that it is somewhat more rust resistent, its greater advantage is that you don't have to send it out to refinish it. If it's a dull finish, a bit of steel wool will blend in any scratches. You can't do that with a blued gun. If it's a bright stainless, then simichrome will restore it.
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