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Old November 4, 2008, 11:20 AM   #26
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He's the only Senator from the only state that sends representatives to Congress?

In YOUR view people send him to Congress to screw up the nation.
I apologize if that is the way it came across. What I meant is that the state of MA is a democrat state full of D'd which only vote for D's regardless of how bad and they do so time after time after time.

Look at RI. It took the death of John Chaffee to get him out of there after 22 years and what did the electorate do? They installed his son, Lincoln Chaffee, in his place. It was ascension by election. Nothing more.
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Old November 4, 2008, 11:34 AM   #27
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So the debate will devolve to one about whether one party seems to get through a policy that you don't agree with and then it's not legitimate as your theology of legitimacy is obviously the only truth.
But then there are the R's who vote the Liberal ticket -- ala Olympia Snow -- and the D's who vote the Conservative ticket -- ala Dingell -- so the party line argument does not hold water. There will always be those who not only cross the aisle they put on the uniform.

Agendae rule the day and one's agenda will trump party.
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Old November 5, 2008, 12:10 PM   #28
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So what - it is still my point that legitimacy is ill defined and if one doesn't agree then it is apriori illegitimate.

I return to legitimacy is what the powerful define as their policy.
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