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Old August 28, 2008, 01:39 PM   #1
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Is there a common powder that can be used for loading 9mm, 40 cal and 45 colt. Not looking at special loads just something common.
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Old August 28, 2008, 02:47 PM   #2
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If you are using a powder measure, look at Accurates #5. If you are weighing every round, look at Unique. Both are about the same burn rate but the AA5 is a ball powder and measures extremely good. You can also use HS-6 for all of the above and is a favorite of mine in all of those cases. It's also a ball powder but a little slower burning than the AA5. I get the best accuracy from the HS-6.
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Old August 28, 2008, 02:56 PM   #3
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Green Dot. (I actually like Red Dot better, but GD will get you higher muzzle velocities.) Titegroup is also supposed to be good in all three of those, but be careful with it in the .45 Colt because it will just be a tiny amount of powder in that huge case.

If you only asked about .40SW and 9mm, I would have said Bullseye or WSF.
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Old August 28, 2008, 03:32 PM   #4
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+1 on AA5 or Unique for these calibers. AA5 does meter better, but I've never had enough of a metering problem with Unique to turn me away from it. Power Pistol is not bad either as long as you aren't looking to get max velocities in your 45 Colt. It meters really well and is excellent in 9mm and .40.
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Old August 28, 2008, 06:03 PM   #5
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Hodgdon TiteGroup. I use it for all 3 you mentioned - and for .45 acp,
.357 mag and .44 mag as well Its a very good powder - and available almost everywhere. Its clean burning and meters very consistently.
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Old August 28, 2008, 06:44 PM   #6
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VihtaVuori has pretty good numbers published for their N340 in these three cartridges.

http://www.lapua.com/fileadmin/user_...deJuly2008.pdf
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Old August 28, 2008, 06:58 PM   #7
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Unique and AA#5.
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Old August 28, 2008, 08:22 PM   #8
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Unique, AA#5, or IMR SR 4756. The AA #5 and SR 4756 will meter like water.
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Old August 28, 2008, 09:14 PM   #9
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45 colt being in a 1921 colt new service so not worried about loading heavy a nice easy loadis fine
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Old August 28, 2008, 10:14 PM   #10
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Bullseye powder works for all 3. I can attest that it works well for 9mm & 40, but I haven't loaded any 45 colt.
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Old August 28, 2008, 10:54 PM   #11
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I really like Unique but I have switched to AA#5 for .38spl / .357mag lead and plinker plated bullet loads, and it works very well for .45acp, I miss Unique for lead .44spl loads I like AA#5 as it meters very well and it burns cleaner at lower pressures.

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Old August 28, 2008, 11:25 PM   #12
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I really like Unique but I have switched to AA#5 for .38spl / .357mag lead and plinker plated bullet loads, it work very well for .45acp, I miss Unique for lead .44spl loads I like AA#5 as it meters very well and it burns cleaner at lower pressures.
I'm pretty sure AA#2 is almost identical to Unique -- except for the meters like oatmeal part. You might want to give it a try.
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Old August 29, 2008, 01:14 AM   #13
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I'm pretty sure AA#2 is almost identical to Unique
I think that Unique is a bit slower than #5, and #2 is between Bullseye and W-231, I have considered trying #2 but If it takes the place of BE and W-231 that would make my primary pistol powders AA# 2,5,and 9
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Old August 29, 2008, 10:59 AM   #14
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I've run some numbers in Quickload, and AA#2 and Unique load data comes out just about identical. AA#5 seems to be about like Herco but perhaps a little slower (I didn't pay close attention to that one).

AA#7 is just *slightly* slower than Blue Dot, and it meters like water (that's a good thing, until you skip a primer and the powder runs out the flash hole all over the place. Don't ask me how I know this)
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Old August 29, 2008, 03:20 PM   #15
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until you skip a primer and the powder runs out the flash hole all over the place
It's so good to know that I'm not the only one...
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Old August 30, 2008, 10:04 AM   #16
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If QUIKLOAD suggests that AA2 and Unique are similar, suggest tossing TURDLOAD program.


For the original query, recommend one size does not fit all, but W231 is IME the safest choice.

Power Pistol will also work.
So will about forty others.
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Old August 30, 2008, 10:21 AM   #17
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Unique is a good all round powder that has a receipe for about any non-magnum pistol load you would ever want to load. Pretty much every reloading manual I have looked at has plenty of info for Unique powder.
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Old September 3, 2008, 06:31 AM   #18
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Power Pistol will give high velocities in 9mm and 40 S&W and can also be used for mid-power loads in the 45 LC. (It was designed for the 9mm and seems a little faster than Unique in the older, large pistol cases like the 45 LC.)

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Old September 3, 2008, 09:12 AM   #19
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Here is a link to ADI's powder equivalency chart. Please note that it is not NOT Not for extrapolating data from one powder to another. It merely shows powders grouped with other powders that are within 5% of one another in burning speed in the standard "closed bomb" test and thus suggests which powders are likely to be useful in similar applications with similar (NOT INTERCHANGABLE) charge weights.

Useful info in considering switching over to a new powder and also for creating caution if you see hugely differing suggested charge weights for powders in the same group. http://www.adi-limited.com/handloade...quivalents.asp

Regarding the original question. Most pistol powders will have tested loads for all of your selected cartridges. Like others my first thought for good performance in multiple calibers has long been Unique. 231 should prove useful and economical in all of yours also. I've long used Red Dot in most pistol loads ( I bought a lot of it long ago).
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Old September 3, 2008, 09:28 AM   #20
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(that's a good thing, until you skip a primer and the powder runs out the flash hole all over the place. Don't ask me how I know this)
I say that's a good thing! Yep, messy, but it sure lets you know right away that you fugged up rather than pretending it's a good round.

It's a lot easier to clean up a few grains of spilled powder than it is to pull an already seated and crimped (but no primer) round!

Don't need to ask-- of course I've done both!
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