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Old July 22, 2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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CZ 97 B in .45

Any fans of the CZ-75 type pistols in .45 caliber here?

A friend of mine had a Witness .45 that was a super reliable tack driver, and I have found it odd that for such a popular type gun among those who know guns that there doesn't seem a lot of interest in the states for this type of arm.
I had been thinking about maybe adding a 10mm to my collection, but realistically a .45 would make more economic sense, and I have the three standard sizes of 1911 and am not into plastic guns.

Any fans of the .45 type CZs out there?
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Old July 22, 2008, 01:48 PM   #2
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One of my absolute favorite guns is a Witness P-carry in .45 Its small enough to conceal in the winter, but shoots like a full size pistol, carries 10+1 rounds of .45, and pretty darn accurate. I also own a Witness 9mm and a CZ-75, and I'm a big fan of the CZ design.

All that being said, I'm not a big fan of the CZ-97. It looks good, but its chunky, heavy, and it dosen't feel like a CZ.
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Old July 22, 2008, 02:03 PM   #3
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I've owned a 97B for about seven years. It's my favorite DA/SA .45 pistol I have ever shot.



These pistols are capable of outstanding accuracy with the correct loads. That is, they tend to favor the heavier bullet weights.

The only real disadvantage is that reloaders have to be careful with their OAL when loading lighter bullets.

The 97B has typical CZ ergonomics. Subjectively, I agree that it's not like shooting a 75 series pistol chambered in .45. It is a larger, heavier pistol than a .45 Tanfoglio.
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Old July 22, 2008, 07:16 PM   #4
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Any fans of the .45 type CZs out there?
I'd like to be a fan, but I've never had the opportunity to handle much less shoot one. I'm in a CZ dead zone
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Old July 22, 2008, 08:33 PM   #5
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I have been handgunning for 30 years. I have owned many .45 pistols through the years, revolvers and semi-autos. I have a deep affection for 1911's and have had some of the best, and still do.

I bought a NIB CZ-97, and no .45 pistol I have ever owned has moved to the top of my favorite list as quickly as this particular pistol. I have mildly modified mine by sanding off the sharp factory checkering, installing a CZ competition hammer and Wolf 13# mainspring. This is an incredibly comfortable pistol for me, has become silky smooth, and the accuracy is just uncanny.

The Witness Elite Match .45 is a fine pistol, I had one, but I prefer the CZ. A few folks have shot my CZ, and as a testament to the shootabiliy of the CZ, I know of someone ordering a CZ.

The 97 is a solid, underrated pistol, in my opinion.
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Old July 22, 2008, 10:22 PM   #6
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I, also, have heard nothing but rave reviews about this pistol. Accuracy and 'feel' being the first positive attributes ascribed to them. For those to whom CZ's are a natural fit, the praise is unending.

The grip size is for larger-handed individuals - or at least that's how they feel to me. I have medium-large hands and the 97 took all of it. The trigger is typical CZ - as in, in my mind, they could shorten up the travel a bit and eliminate the creep completely.

I own several CZ firearms and really love all of them - the P-01 (9mm) and the VZ 58 come to mind here. They 'point' naturally and they just 'feel right' in my hands. The 97 is on the short list and I've handled several of them. I have friends who own CZ shotguns, and I own both CZ handguns and long rifles and I can say without exaggeration that I have not heard a bad word about any of their firearms. There's a lot to be said for that.
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Old July 23, 2008, 10:40 AM   #7
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A few years ago I got one of the CZ 75Bs that were the Turkish overruns. I liked it so much I wanted a 97B. It was the first and last pistol I’ve purchased with out actually holding it. It’s a BIG gun. Took it to the range and put 100 rounds through it I can’t remember what ammo I used probably Blazer. Had quite a few jams. Put it back in the box and sold it for a loss. I also didn’t like the way the Mag fit as you can see it the picture above. At first I though something was wrong but that is just the way they fit. I love my 75B and C&R 82 but the 97 wasn’t for me.
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Old July 23, 2008, 12:47 PM   #8
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I want one. I own 75B, and it is ergonomic perfection and shoots very
straight.

Can anyone compare 97B with Sig 220 and HK45? Those are the other
non-1911 45's I'm considering.

Cheers,

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Old July 24, 2008, 02:39 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate it.
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Old July 24, 2008, 03:05 PM   #10
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Can anyone compare 97B with Sig 220 and HK45? Those are the other
non-1911 45's I'm considering.
As much as I like the H&K USP .45, I have to say that the CZ is a better pistol, dollar for dollar. The H&K is even bulkier, but it is lighter, IIRC. A friend of mine owns one, and we both shoot the 97B more accurately. The only real negatives of the H&K are price and size.

The SIG 220 is a nice pistol. It has some advantages over both the CZ and HK. For one thing, it is reasonably small and light. Of the three models discussed, it would be the best option for EDC. Again, it costs more than a CZ, and it does not seem to be as accurate.

Both the SIG and HK have a LOT more aftermarket support. I would have to say that these three are the best, or among the best, DA/SA .45s on the market. The SIG also comes in an SA version.

The Witness Elite Match also has a similar feel to the CZ, but it is smaller and lighter.
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Old July 24, 2008, 08:56 PM   #11
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FEG is very knowledgable and I concur with his observations. Even though the 97 does not have much aftermarket support, the CZ custom shop does offer some worthwhile upgrades, i.e. Wolf springs, fiber optic front and competition rear sights, and that incredible competition hammer.

The 97 IMHO, doesn't need much to take it from a gem, to a diamond.
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Old July 24, 2008, 10:07 PM   #12
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" It’s a BIG gun."

Yes, it is. And that's about the only complaint I can recall hearing of, besides lack of holster options. Which is impressive, when you think of it.

The only one I ever enountered outside of a store, a friend's, was an easy and accurate shooter.
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Old July 24, 2008, 10:54 PM   #13
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if it says CZ on the slide.. its a rock solid gun
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Old July 25, 2008, 06:17 AM   #14
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I have the CZ75b and the CZ85 combat and the CZ97 and I have never seen a Glock come close to the accuracy and reliability of them.

Especially the Glock 17 or 19 to the CZ 75. Well Glock is used by virtually all police. Yep they are. I get made fun off when carrying my CZ75 from the Glocksters. Glock's are quit good. But my faith is deep with the CZ>

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