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Old May 1, 2008, 10:39 AM   #1
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S&W Model 60 with 3" barrel

To much for concealed carry or possibly just right?
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Old May 1, 2008, 10:56 AM   #2
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My S&W M60-10:



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Old May 1, 2008, 12:41 PM   #3
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Guess it will work for that. With the long barrel and the large grips, I suppose you might just as well step up to a K frame snub but that configuration makes a nice bedstand revolver too.
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Old May 1, 2008, 03:32 PM   #4
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For many years as a LEO, I carried a 3" square butt Model 36. I think the extra length barrel not only gains extra sighting radius but the combination adds needed weight when firing hot loads. The extra barrel length has no effect on concealment, though the square butt might, depending on the method of carry. (Of course, I didn't care especially about concealment, but some might.)

There is another thread you might be interested in:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=292081

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Old May 1, 2008, 04:57 PM   #5
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I have a 3 inch model 60 that I sometimes carry OWB under a jacket. It is definitely more concealable than a 4 inch K-frame and the 3 inch barrel makes a lot of sense over a 2 inch J-frame if loaded with .357. I haven't carried it IWB yet but it shouldn't be a problem.

Richard -- What kind of holster is that?
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Old May 1, 2008, 08:08 PM   #6
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I never understood j-frames with extended barrels and large grips. The J-frame is a compromise gun ~ small and light enough that you can carry it in a pocket or ankle holster, but boy is it hard to shoot well. Add an inch in two directions, and you've got a belt gun that holds 5 rounds and may or may not be rated to shoot +P.
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Old May 1, 2008, 08:58 PM   #7
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I have a 60-4 3" and a 36 3" and they are great for concealed carry. Get one and have fun.
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Old May 1, 2008, 09:17 PM   #8
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I never understood j-frames with extended barrels and large grips. The J-frame is a compromise gun ~ small and light enough that you can carry it in a pocket or ankle holster, but boy is it hard to shoot well. Add an inch in two directions, and you've got a belt gun that holds 5 rounds and may or may not be rated to shoot +P.
The Model 60 is an all steel .357 magnum. Magnum loads are quite manageable in these and a three inch barrel makes it balance and point well. There is, however, enough size difference between it and a K-frame (much less an L-frame) that the 60 is more concealable (I have stock rubber grips). The only reason I don't carry mine more often is because I'm working on the trigger to smooth it out.
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Old May 1, 2008, 09:32 PM   #9
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The minute I see someone shooting .357s fairly accurately and quickly out of any J-frame with one hand, I'll change my mind. Until then, a j-frame is a .38, no matter if it's chambered for .357 or not.

My 60 is a .38 special 2". It has a hammer, so I don't wear it crossdraw or in appendix position. It works well in a Mika pocket holster with regular-pressure .38s. For a belt gun, I'll take 7+ rounds of 9mm +P and a good trigger, or one of my GP-100s that probably shoots better with my eyes closed than a J-frame does with the sights lined up.
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Old May 2, 2008, 02:12 AM   #10
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The value of a Model 60 3", incidentally the only S&W still left in my safe among all the Ruger wheelies, is it's ergonomics and, as stated previously and more eloquently, it's weight. Like all great 3" revolvers, five shots especially, it "Carries like a 2 and shoots like a 4". How do we get to Carnegie hall, how do we survive the shooting incident? Practice, practice, practice!

Ichiro, what are you doing with your off hand? Holding a flashlight? Rolling a cigarette? Making a phone call? Curiosity and humor.
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Old May 2, 2008, 06:28 AM   #11
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Model 60 Holster

I carry my 3" Mod. 60 is a Kramer Vertical Scabbard. High and Tight! Quality piece of leather. If you order one, go for the horsehide over the cowhide. Much sturdier.
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Old May 2, 2008, 02:25 PM   #12
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Thanks guys, lots of great ideas
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Old May 2, 2008, 08:03 PM   #13
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3" 60 is a great little pistol if you are going to belt carry or use a shoulder holster. I find that it is about 1" too long for pocket carry in most of my day to day clothing. I have a 2" 60 no dash and a 3" 60-9. I have to agree with one of the posters that if you put the big grips on it you might as well be toting a 3" 65 or 66. Again not a problem for belt carry, you get 1 more shot if 357 mag and you get some wt to help attenuate the recoil.
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Old May 3, 2008, 10:00 AM   #14
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I hve carried this for 10 years off and on.
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Old May 3, 2008, 02:26 PM   #15
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Out of a model 60
125 grain HP Corbon 1204:
Recoil Energy of 8 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 18 fps.
125 grain Buffalobore at 1425 fps
Recoil Energy of 11 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 22 fps.
Federal Personal defense 357 158 grain hp 1240 fps
Recoil Energy of 12 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 23 fps.
I found the 60 with a 3", for 357, to be the best setup.The extra weight makes the recoil reasonable, and, one hopes you can actually get the DA trigger under the 10 pound horror that is my 360PD.

Also, the 2" barrels just don't give enough velocity to really be called 357. They just come out Plus P's..That extra inch is huge, velocity wise.

Course the gun is no longer a pocket gun...and it's noisy as heck, and bullet weight limited, but, if you have one, it's in my top 5% for being better then a sharp stick.

In that same category I'd be looking at 44 Specials, Glock 29 in 10mm, Glock 30 in 45 ACP, probably loaded with 45 Super, etc. Looks with ire at 360pd), AND wishes it would morph...
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Old May 3, 2008, 04:36 PM   #16
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3 Inch Model 60

And then, there is the SMITH Pro Series, model 60 .357 Mag with Night sight, and cam'd charge holes. One of the most on target out of the box I have ever owned. I tried to get a second grip like this Pro Series has, but Smith tells me they are having a problem getting them fast enough, and have non for parts sales.
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Old May 3, 2008, 04:51 PM   #17
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3 Inch Smiths

They are great firearms.
I have a Model 36 Classic, RB, 3inch barrel rated for +P that has never been fired, and is new in box - I am offering it for sale for $475.00

I obtained a S&W Model 60 ProSeries that I find fits me better.

Inquire to prifax@gmail.com
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Old May 3, 2008, 06:46 PM   #18
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First you need a photo hosting site, I use: http://photobucket.com/. Once you figure out how to upload photos to Photobucket, which is free, all you have to do is right click on the Direct link and that will copy the location. Then go to Post Reply on the Firing Line, click on it, you will see a small yellow icon that looks like a mountain, click on it, when another pop up appears right click, and paste. Al, can you tell I used to technical writing for a living?

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Old May 3, 2008, 06:51 PM   #19
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KYJim, my holster is a Hard Shell Talon by Lou Alessi and it is a low cost dandy. I own/use several of Lou's Hard Shell Talon holsters and I recommend them. Regards, Richard
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Old May 3, 2008, 07:20 PM   #20
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Sgt. Fathead, I expect the off hand could be busy instructing a home intruder/carjacker/mugger to stay back, keeping my wife behind me, holding the leash attached to my dog while walking her, hanging onto a bag of groceries (mind freeze), or punching the face of a cracked-out vagrant who decided to rush me. It's hard to say.

Or maybe I was interrupted on the john, and I'm holding my pants up with my free hand. Once we get freaked out, there's just no explaining things, so I like my defensive arms to be workable with one hand.
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Old May 3, 2008, 10:00 PM   #21
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Ichiro, my M60-10, as set up, handles all loads well. I cannot say the same for other J-Frame 357s I have shot; these other J-Frame 357s just plain hurt to shoot! Regards, Richard
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Old October 3, 2011, 09:08 PM   #22
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question for richard

I'm new to this forum and can't tell whether your S&W model 60 357 is for sale or just posted for discussion.
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Old October 3, 2011, 10:26 PM   #23
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Here's mine...



...a .38SPC model.

It actually started life as a target gun for my mom, she has small hands and this pistol worked perfectly. And don't let the short barrel fool you, it's a tackdriver.

Unfortunately, arthritis got the better of her and she gave it back to me (and bought a Buckmark instead.) I wound up carrying the model 60 for a year until I talked my brother out of the Colt Gov't .380 I carry now (when I'm not carrying my .45) I needed a small pistol that handled well in my big hands... and the 3" model 60 worked pretty good for that. No, it's not as small as a 2", but 1" more of J-frame barrel isn't that hard to hide.
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Old October 4, 2011, 01:24 AM   #24
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Carried mine daily for a couple years IWB but I sold it recently for a 640 in .38. Great gun and very accurate but for a J frame I would rather have something that can fit in a pocket.

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Old October 5, 2011, 11:57 PM   #25
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The Smith & Wesson Model 60 would be a Better choice for concelment. But I like the 64 overall.
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