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Old July 13, 2007, 09:03 PM   #1
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Smith & Wesson Model 18

I just purchased a S&W Model 18 (4 screw) in possibly unfired, in the box condition. The box is slightly worn, but the gun does appear to be unfired (or spotlessly cleaned) and is in absolutely mint condition with no marks or wear and perfect diamond grips, numbered to the gun. The gun dates to 1960 according to Supica's book.
My question is-I paid $400 for this gun thinking it HAD to be worth way more than that, but it only actually books in the high $400 or so range.
What is this gun realistically worth, do you guys think? It was an estate type sale and I got there early!
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Old July 13, 2007, 09:29 PM   #2
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I've seen S&W 17's with wear go for more than that - and those are considerably more common.
I think you got a deal. What it would go for depends on the market, prices can vary considerably.
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Old July 13, 2007, 11:56 PM   #3
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I don't know where you live but here that pristine 18 would approach $800, $500 would be a steal!
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Old July 14, 2007, 12:32 AM   #4
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You did REAL GOOD. I bought one two years ago for $330- excellent condition, no box. Then I ran away like a dog with a steak from the butcher shop.
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Old July 14, 2007, 12:54 AM   #5
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S&w 18

That gun is probably too mint to shoot . . . a pity.

I bought a used S&W 18 from a co-worker back in 1982. I think I paid $200 for it, complete with a left-handed shoulder rig from the Famous Jackass Leather Company (which later became Galco). I'm right handed, so I sold the holster to a city cop who was left handed and carried an M67 for a duty gun . . .

At the time I was a law enforcement specialist in the Security Police in the ANG, and we carried S&W 15 Combat Masterpiece Revolvers. The M18 is an identical K frame (except for the caliber) and I used it as a sub-caliber practice gun instead of an M15.

My model 18 has the nicest double action trigger of any of my revolvers, and I still shoot it frequently.
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Old July 14, 2007, 10:08 AM   #6
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I paid $400 for this gun thinking it HAD to be worth way more than that, but it only actually books in the high $400 or so range.
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Given the fact there are a Lot more model 17's out there than model 18's the model 18 carries a higher collector status which demads Higher Prices. I have a Model 18 Like your which is a 4 screw gun made in 1958. It was wearing the Target Factory grips shown and I Paid $400.00 for it Two years ago, and what Grips are going for today I figured they alone would easily bring $100.00. The second model 18-4 I have came to me Unfired and it has the Three T's which are not seen on many model 18's as they are considered the Combat Masterpiece and Target Options are usually Placed on Target style guns not Combat Models. I Paid $450.00 for the new 18-4 Last year. I feel a 4 screw model is worth more than a 5 screw model as it was in the Middle of the design change when they dropped the Upper side plate Bug screw which made them a 5 screw gun and this transaction occurred on a very short span leaving the 4 screw models more rare than a 5 screw or 3 screw after the changes. I use the reference book you speak of for a basic guide. It is Impossible for any reference book to project a guns worth as Geographical Location along with supply and demand all Play into a Guns total worth. You did not get hurt with what you gave for yours and I feel if I over pay for any S&W it will be that and beyond in a few years anyway's as the Prices of S&W revolvers always goes up not down, Therefore The Market Price will exceed what I may have over paid at that time in a very short Period. Bottom Line.. $400.00 today is a Base Price for any S&W revolver worth it's grain of Salt. Now, Let's se some Pictures of that Beauty.. Hammer It.


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Old July 14, 2007, 11:12 AM   #7
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Good lord, Hammer It...

Do you own one of every S&W ever made, and

Do you get paid per word when you use bold?
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Old July 14, 2007, 11:53 AM   #8
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Do you get paid per word when you use bold?
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I wish I did, But there are still a few I Lack out there. The Bold has a way of waking you up doesn't it ? Hammer It.
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Old July 14, 2007, 04:04 PM   #9
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I just purchased a S&W Model 18 (4 screw) in possibly unfired, in the box condition. ... My question is-I paid $400 for this gun
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Old July 14, 2007, 05:34 PM   #10
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Although you don't see as many M18s as M17s the reason is owners tend to hold on to them. They seem to sell for no more than a comparable M17 in the same condition from what I have run across. Anyone paying $800 for one have more money than sense. $400 to $500 for one in excellent condition seems about right from what I've seen. A small premium should be added for vintage models, but the premium is no more than those for the M17. Three years ago I got one NIB for $350.
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Old July 14, 2007, 07:58 PM   #11
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Here she is. I am really torn as to what to do with this thing though. I have always wanted one, but never in a million lifetimes figured I would find one this minty for that price. I don't know if I should shoot it!
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Old July 14, 2007, 08:58 PM   #12
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YES, you should absolutely shoot it. If you don't, it will eventually fall into the hands of someone who will be dying to shoot it and then you will have paid good money for the privledge of being a caretaker for someone else's gun.

The Model 18 has collectible value, but I wouldn't call it a rare gun. Fact is that you can probably shoot thousands of rounds in that gun and if you clean it really well every time out the only difference you will notice is a more pronounced turn line.
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Old July 14, 2007, 09:21 PM   #13
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If you maried a Gorgeous Woman in Bed and were afraid to Touch her that would Make a Fast Divorce and someone else will surely Touch her for You. Shoot that One Like any other and Enjoy it like S&W Intended you to. Hammer It.
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Old July 14, 2007, 09:22 PM   #14
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svenrh:

That is a truly beautiful Model 18! I sure wouldn't mind at all being in your shoes right now! Congratulations! That M18 takes the cake! What dash number is your Model 18(18(no dash#), 18-1, 18-2 etc.)?
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Old July 14, 2007, 09:24 PM   #15
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This is a Model 18 no dash.
You guys are giving me great advice by the way!
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Old July 14, 2007, 09:30 PM   #16
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I shoot al my K-22's and Like said Previously a Turn line will be the Only downfall to enjoying them, But I have seen some that were supposed to be unfired with a turn line. I will share a Little secret with you as well, That NO Guns that have ever left S&W Unfired. They test each one at least Three rounds so they are used when you buy one new. Tell that to any collector Purist and they can't argue with you about it .. Hammer It.
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Old July 14, 2007, 11:41 PM   #17
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Unless I'm not seeing the pictures correctly I wouldn't worry about shooting it. The hammer and trigger looks blued which generally means a reblue job and all collectability is lost.
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Old July 14, 2007, 11:41 PM   #18
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Beautiful little .22 ain't it? Shoot it. You know you want to. It's not like you're going to drag it in the gravel or dunk it in salt water and never clean it.

Shoot it, enjoy the shooting. Clean it, enjoy the cleaning. Marvel the whole while.

I picked up an 18-3 today. No box. Honest holster wear. Small speck o' rust just above the bottom sideplate screw. 0000 stl wool and oil until I have a small kernal of corn size shiny spot left showing. Gonna take it out tomorrow and shoot a few rounds. Cost $350. So you did REEEEAL good svenrh (you should be ashamed or proud or both)

Also picked up a 14-4 for the same price. No wear and tear, just some chamber fouling I've been working on. It's going out tomorrow too. Time to turn some money into noise and holes on paper.
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Old July 15, 2007, 12:33 AM   #19
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Unless I'm not seeing the pictures correctly I wouldn't worry about shooting it. The hammer and trigger looks blued which generally means a reblue job and all collectability is lost.
They look color case hardened on my screen. I don't think this is a re-blue, but I could be wrong.
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Old July 15, 2007, 01:42 AM   #20
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My(Very hard to find)Model 18-3!

I looked until I was blue in the face to find this Model 18-3 here in the PRK. It was as close to mint as I could find-so I snapped it up! This was a few years ago and, I haven't seen another M18 since!:


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Old July 15, 2007, 09:44 AM   #21
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Unless I'm not seeing the pictures correctly I wouldn't worry about shooting it. The

She's original. The trigger and hammer are case colored, the pictures just aren't the best. Two gunsmiths looked at it Saturday and verified it is original.

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Old July 15, 2007, 09:52 AM   #22
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I don't want to rain on your Parade but the Only way to verify if a gun is original and when it left the factory and to whom it shipped is to apply for a factory letter. It is a modest cost of $35.00 and if you do go for it, Be sure to give accurate descriptions of the grips, Hammer width and trigger width as the Original shipping Info. has all this recorded and if the parts have ever been changed out, this is a sure way of knowing that. Hammers, trigger's and Grip's are often swapped out after they leave the factory to suite the shooter that owns it, and they are drop in parts so no Gun Smith work is needed. A Gun smith can just look at a Part and say it is factory but has no way of telling if it has been swapped or changed out after it left the factory. Just a thought. Hammer It
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Old July 15, 2007, 09:52 AM   #23
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Help me post pic's

Here is a forum question. I am somewhat new to the forum and can't figure out how post pictures without a hyperlink. Also how do you get the text/quote box with other peoples quotes to show up on a reply? (Like Hammer It's with the pic's above)
Simple technical stuff I am sure.
Thanks for the help!
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Old July 15, 2007, 12:16 PM   #24
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Here is a forum question. I am somewhat new to the forum and can't figure out how post pictures without a hyperlink. Also how do you get the text/quote box with other peoples quotes to show up on a reply? (Like Hammer It's with the pic's above)
Simple technical stuff I am sure.
Thanks for the help!
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First you have to select a Picture host like Photo-Bucket or Hunt 101 Once you open a free account you can load all your Private pictures from your home computer into your album. Once the album has been established you start a thread in what ever forum you desire, then shrink it down to add a Picture. Bring up the Picture host from your List of favorites and Left click on the Image section. Once it Lights up Blue while your Mouse Pointer is still on the Image part now right click and click left again on the copy Part that scrolls down. Close out the Picture host and Make the forum Post full size again. Left click under the post and the Menu will scroll down again and hit the Paste feature with a right click. It should appear in the forum thread once you hit submit.


On making the Quote appear simply Left click on what you want to quote and a scroll down menu will appear. Right click on Copy and roll down to your thread and Look above in the aThread menu and quote is the Third selection from the Left, Left click on it. That will Place Two small quote notations on your thread. Now Place the Mouse Pointer between the Two small quotes and left click to place it then right click and the Menu will scroll down and left click on the Paste Feature and then right click again. It should then show what you wanted to quote. If you want to do multi Qutes from different threads you will have to take one at a time, copy and past them by doing the same Process expalined above. I hope this helps, Hammer It.
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Old July 15, 2007, 01:24 PM   #25
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"The Bold has a way of waking you up doesn't it ?"

Uh... Unfortunately no, it doesn't.

I find it to be so distracting that I have a very difficult time reading your posts. If they're longer than a few lines, I often don't.

I just look at the pretty pictures...
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