WW II Rifle Research

Victor LaGrippe · May 13, 2007, 08:37 PM

Ive recently received 2 bolt action rifles. I beleive 1 is a German Kar 98K. Would like to get educated on the markings. Like date of manufacture,Type of ammunition, How I could obtain accessories, etc.

The other rifle is about 8" shorter. the markings on the receiver:

42-XX

FNA-Brescia

RA05096

RE

Any help on researching these rifles would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Vic LaGrippe

rufe snow · May 14, 2007, 12:47 AM

The second rifle is a Italian Army Rifle, called a Carcano

Go to these links, they will help you research your rifles and answer some of your questions.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...k/k98index.htm

http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/

**James K** · May 14, 2007, 01:06 PM

There are exceptions, but a Kar.98k should be marked "Mod. 98" on the left side of the receiver. On the top of the receiver ring should be a manufacturer's code (2-3 letters/numbers, like "dot" or "S/42") and a two digit date (such as "41"). There will also be Nazi eagle inspection and acceptance stamps. There will be four-digit serial numbers on most of the larger parts; if the rifle is original, those will match. (Some rifles were rebuilt or refurbished and part numbers "force matched" with a different stamp or with an electric pencil. Those are not as deseireable to collectors as original rifles.)

Jim

Scorch · May 15, 2007, 05:25 PM

The second rifle may be a Terni carbine (Model 38, cal 7.35mm), essentially the same rifle as the Model 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano in a larger caliber, named for the Terni armory where they were designed.

rufe snow · May 15, 2007, 07:33 PM

My reference notes that the marking "FNA-Brescia" denotes manufacture
in the Italian national arsenal/armory located in Brescia Italy. Manufacture of the Carcano ended there prior to the First World War. As the rifle has W W II markings, "42-XX", I believe it to have been reworked, probably at Terni.

SDC · May 15, 2007, 10:56 PM

The second rifle should be a Mannlicher-Carcano 1938 Cavalry carbine, built at the Fabbrica Nazionale d'Armi di Brescia, and chambered for either 6.5x52 Carcano or 7.35mm Carcano.

May 13, 2007, 08:37 PM	#1
Victor LaGrippe Junior Member Join Date: May 13, 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 1	WW II Rifle Research Ive recently received 2 bolt action rifles. I beleive 1 is a German Kar 98K. Would like to get educated on the markings. Like date of manufacture,Type of ammunition, How I could obtain accessories, etc. The other rifle is about 8" shorter. the markings on the receiver: 42-XX FNA-Brescia RA05096 RE Any help on researching these rifles would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Vic LaGrippe

May 14, 2007, 01:06 PM	#3
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,426	There are exceptions, but a Kar.98k should be marked "Mod. 98" on the left side of the receiver. On the top of the receiver ring should be a manufacturer's code (2-3 letters/numbers, like "dot" or "S/42") and a two digit date (such as "41"). There will also be Nazi eagle inspection and acceptance stamps. There will be four-digit serial numbers on most of the larger parts; if the rifle is original, those will match. (Some rifles were rebuilt or refurbished and part numbers "force matched" with a different stamp or with an electric pencil. Those are not as deseireable to collectors as original rifles.) Jim __________________ Jim K

May 15, 2007, 05:25 PM	#4
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 11,033	The second rifle may be a Terni carbine (Model 38, cal 7.35mm), essentially the same rifle as the Model 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano in a larger caliber, named for the Terni armory where they were designed. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Taylor Machine

May 15, 2007, 10:56 PM	#6
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,576	The second rifle should be a Mannlicher-Carcano 1938 Cavalry carbine, built at the Fabbrica Nazionale d'Armi di Brescia, and chambered for either 6.5x52 Carcano or 7.35mm Carcano. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

May 14, 2007, 12:47 AM	#2
rufe snow Junior Member Join Date: May 4, 2007 Posts: 12	The second rifle is a Italian Army Rifle, called a Carcano Go to these links, they will help you research your rifles and answer some of your questions. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...k/k98index.htm http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/

May 15, 2007, 07:33 PM	#5
rufe snow Junior Member Join Date: May 4, 2007 Posts: 12	My reference notes that the marking "FNA-Brescia" denotes manufacture in the Italian national arsenal/armory located in Brescia Italy. Manufacture of the Carcano ended there prior to the First World War. As the rifle has W W II markings, "42-XX", I believe it to have been reworked, probably at Terni.