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Old April 20, 2007, 03:19 PM   #1
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Carbide rifle dies

Who else beside Dillon makes them?? Dillon is a full length small base carbide die sizer, but at $110.00. Just wondering if someone else makes them for a little less. If not, guess I got to spend it!!
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Old April 20, 2007, 03:27 PM   #2
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They are not really worth the $$ since you still MUST lube the cases.
The large contact area betwen die and case in a taered rifle cartridge will stick even in carbide.
Carbide works on straight wall rounds since the ring is short and is only touching a fraction of the case at a time.
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Old April 20, 2007, 11:55 PM   #3
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Nobody that I've ever seen. Lee makes their 'collet' dies but they're really just neck sizing dies.
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Old April 21, 2007, 09:09 AM   #4
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Yes, the Dillon dies are expen$ive.

Yes, you still need to lube the cases, albeit not as much.

That said, if you can afford the Dillon dies, you will find it takes a lot less lube and effort to resize and your arm will appreciate it!

I now use the carbide die in a Rockchucker to resize, then I take those cases and run them through the 550 with the standard die in the first station. You have to place the cases at #1 anyway and the die there makes sure the cases are properly placed before going into the powder die.
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Old April 21, 2007, 11:26 AM   #5
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Since I only use my brass in my rifle I neck resize. It saves a lot of time and you don't need to lube.
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Old April 21, 2007, 06:02 PM   #6
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Being this brass is used in semi-autos, I need to full length size. Thanks to all who responded, now talk me into which way to go!!!
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Old April 22, 2007, 01:29 AM   #7
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Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss.
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Old April 22, 2007, 07:44 AM   #8
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You might want to take a look at the RCBS X-DIE. It was developed for use in semi auto's. I bought one and it works well. It is suppose to limit the need for constant trimming and sizes a little different for semi autos. I would love to see someone develop a carbide die for rifle that you don't need to lube. I'm sure it could be done.
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Old April 22, 2007, 10:36 AM   #9
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If you do a lot of reloading, the Dillon dies are worth it. And you can use Dillon spray lube with them.
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Old April 23, 2007, 10:31 AM   #10
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"T. O'Heir
Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss."


I now use RCBS full length dies, but they aren't the small base dies. I will have to get another die! I will have ti investigate the X die as I have brass on the table awaiting my attention!!
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