Need to find 80-90 grain .308 spitzer bullets.

L.E. · December 11, 2006, 06:32 AM

Any specialty bullet makers able to do this?

Crosshair · December 11, 2006, 03:02 PM

Look for 7.62x25 pistol bullets. Hornady makes a 90 grain HP bullet. What exactly are you looking to use it for?

Rimrod · December 11, 2006, 05:29 PM

Pistol bullets will be round nose and not spitzer. The lightest .308 dia. bullets that I can think of that even came close to a spitzer were around 110 grains. Speer and Hornady both had a version.

azredhawk44 · December 11, 2006, 07:37 PM

Sierra has some varminters at 110gr.

Hornady and Sierra have some half-jacketed highly tapered round nose bullets at 100gr, but I wouldn't call them spitzers by any stretch.

Just not enough length to make a spitzer with 80-90gr of lead weight. Maybe a solid copper bullet, something from Barnes maybe? The lightest I can find from them is 110gr too though.

Cheese · December 11, 2006, 10:06 PM

It would have to look like the cross section of a heat sink!

tINY · December 11, 2006, 10:08 PM

Good luck - I don't think spitzer bullets in 30 caliber can weigh that little. But, you might be able to make a hollow base design.....

-tINY

RustyRP · December 17, 2006, 07:49 AM

I dont know how desperately you want to do this, or how big your budget is

also - what are you wanting these for? a 10mm case necked down to .30 in a G-20 pistol barrel at 1900 fps? or are you trying to break 5000 fps with a big magnum case?

If you arent going to push it too fast I would suggest taking the smallest / lightest bullet mould with an appropriate shape that you can find....

such as maybe this .309 7.62x39 125 grain bullet from RCBS

http://www.rcbs.com/default.asp?menu...2=9&s3=83&pg=4

and then casting it out of zinc (zamak)

if you are pushing it at super high velocities, then I suggest you lathe turn the bullets (of that same profile) out of brass rod

re: zinc - you gotta be careful not to intermingle zinc and lead in the same pot.... even a little bit of zinc will ruin subsequent lead pours.... but there is information out there on cast zinc bullets -

another thing - zinc weighs about two thirds of lead in the same mould - so that 125 grain mould will throw 83 grain zinc bullets

My understanding is that it wont 'lead' (hah!) or crap stuff out onto the barrel at under 3000 fps....... but if you are gonna push them out at 4000+ fps it might be completely vaporized before getting out of the barrel

Chuck Dye · December 17, 2006, 01:55 PM

You have not said what the intent is, so this is a WAG, but you may want to consider a sabot load or paper patched load. Such techniques will get you the spitzer profile at the weights you want to run.

Sabots are available from E. Arthur Brown Company, Inc. and others. Most are for shooting .224 bullets in .308 bores. I have heard of .243/.308 and .257/.308 sabots but a brief search has not turned up any.

Paper patching of modern bullets is something I read of long ago in one of the mainstream gun rags. The authors lightly scored the surface of a bullet , rolling it under pressure between two files as I recall, then rolled/wrapped it in wet 100% rag bond. In the article they primarily worked with 7mm/.284 bullets in .308 bores but also had success with .257/.308 combos. I would not attempt this unless I could find that original article and other sources in which trustworthy people had taken most of the risks of development.

MrGee · December 17, 2006, 03:23 PM

Hmmm Sierra has a 110 gr varmit ... if you are good, grind the tip slightly an drill it out like a hollow point till ya have weight U need..? just something i'd try ..

December 11, 2006, 06:32 AM	#1
L.E. Junior Member Join Date: October 31, 2001 Posts: 5	Need to find 80-90 grain .308 spitzer bullets. Any specialty bullet makers able to do this?

December 11, 2006, 03:02 PM	#2
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,319	Look for 7.62x25 pistol bullets. Hornady makes a 90 grain HP bullet. What exactly are you looking to use it for? __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

December 17, 2006, 07:49 AM	#7
RustyRP Member Join Date: September 27, 1999 Posts: 99	I dont know how desperately you want to do this, or how big your budget is also - what are you wanting these for? a 10mm case necked down to .30 in a G-20 pistol barrel at 1900 fps? or are you trying to break 5000 fps with a big magnum case? If you arent going to push it too fast I would suggest taking the smallest / lightest bullet mould with an appropriate shape that you can find.... such as maybe this .309 7.62x39 125 grain bullet from RCBS http://www.rcbs.com/default.asp?menu...2=9&s3=83&pg=4 and then casting it out of zinc (zamak) if you are pushing it at super high velocities, then I suggest you lathe turn the bullets (of that same profile) out of brass rod re: zinc - you gotta be careful not to intermingle zinc and lead in the same pot.... even a little bit of zinc will ruin subsequent lead pours.... but there is information out there on cast zinc bullets - another thing - zinc weighs about two thirds of lead in the same mould - so that 125 grain mould will throw 83 grain zinc bullets My understanding is that it wont 'lead' (hah!) or crap stuff out onto the barrel at under 3000 fps....... but if you are gonna push them out at 4000+ fps it might be completely vaporized before getting out of the barrel Last edited by RustyRP; December 17, 2006 at 08:23 AM. Reason: ask OP's what his desired velocity is

December 17, 2006, 01:55 PM	#8
Chuck Dye Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2002 Location: Oregon-The wet side. Posts: 736	You have not said what the intent is, so this is a WAG, but you may want to consider a sabot load or paper patched load. Such techniques will get you the spitzer profile at the weights you want to run. Sabots are available from E. Arthur Brown Company, Inc. and others. Most are for shooting .224 bullets in .308 bores. I have heard of .243/.308 and .257/.308 sabots but a brief search has not turned up any. Paper patching of modern bullets is something I read of long ago in one of the mainstream gun rags. The authors lightly scored the surface of a bullet , rolling it under pressure between two files as I recall, then rolled/wrapped it in wet 100% rag bond. In the article they primarily worked with 7mm/.284 bullets in .308 bores but also had success with .257/.308 combos. I would not attempt this unless I could find that original article and other sources in which trustworthy people had taken most of the risks of development. __________________ Gee, I'd love to see your data! Last edited by Chuck Dye; December 17, 2006 at 03:34 PM.

December 11, 2006, 05:29 PM	#3
Rimrod Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 1,310	Pistol bullets will be round nose and not spitzer. The lightest .308 dia. bullets that I can think of that even came close to a spitzer were around 110 grains. Speer and Hornady both had a version.

December 11, 2006, 07:37 PM	#4
azredhawk44 Junior member Join Date: September 28, 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,465	Sierra has some varminters at 110gr. Hornady and Sierra have some half-jacketed highly tapered round nose bullets at 100gr, but I wouldn't call them spitzers by any stretch. Just not enough length to make a spitzer with 80-90gr of lead weight. Maybe a solid copper bullet, something from Barnes maybe? The lightest I can find from them is 110gr too though.

December 11, 2006, 10:06 PM	#5
Cheese Member Join Date: December 6, 2006 Posts: 64	It would have to look like the cross section of a heat sink!

December 11, 2006, 10:08 PM	#6
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	Good luck - I don't think spitzer bullets in 30 caliber can weigh that little. But, you might be able to make a hollow base design..... -tINY

December 17, 2006, 03:23 PM	#9
MrGee Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2005 Location: NC Posts: 258	Hmmm Sierra has a 110 gr varmit ... if you are good, grind the tip slightly an drill it out like a hollow point till ya have weight U need..? just something i'd try ..