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Old July 21, 2006, 02:00 PM   #1
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how to fire form brass for 223 ackley?

should I fire some primed brass with like 6gr of powder or just shoot a 223 rem in there and let it expand??

any help appreciated
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Old July 21, 2006, 02:10 PM   #2
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fire forming

load it like you would for a standard 223, shoot it. it is now fire formed. you need standard pressures to do the forming. the brass will expand to fill the chamber. if you use a real light load it may not expand all the way. there is no need to push the issue with a hot load. that can be dangerous let alone the extra wear on the gun and brass.
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Old July 21, 2006, 04:10 PM   #3
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Always use regular loads to fireform the brass in an improved chamber. You may blow out a few shoulders, depending on the brass.
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Old July 21, 2006, 08:21 PM   #4
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so really could i just go buy some cheap, paper punching .223 rem and go fire them through while sighting a scope in somewhat?
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Old July 21, 2006, 10:22 PM   #5
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... go fire them through while sighting a scope in somewhat?
Like translate, please.
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Old July 21, 2006, 10:25 PM   #6
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fire forming

If it was me I would go buy some new brass. and load it up with cheap bullets and bang away. I presume you have 223 ackley improved dies?
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Old July 22, 2006, 02:37 AM   #7
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so, I will go shoot some generic remington 223 through and while I am at it try to sight a scope in at the same time, so this blasting has some other use than jsut fire forming.
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Old July 22, 2006, 07:07 AM   #8
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No. Fireforming is not the time to sight in a scope. Make sure the load you are shooting is within the normal pressure range of the round you are fireforming. You don't need a target, you just need a safe backstop. All you are doing is fireforming. The bullets, primers and powder are sacrifices for the fireforming of the brass. Do you have AI .223 dies?

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Old July 22, 2006, 10:16 AM   #9
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My opinion is different than some , I dont shoot a .223 ackley . I do shoot the 6 and 7 tcu cartridges that are based on a .223 and treat fire forming just like target shoting . I get pretty good groups fireforming and the practice for the basics wont hurt anybody . I wouldnt try zeroing a scope while fireforming and then going hunting with the finished loads , You could use fireforming to make sure you are on paper though.
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Old July 22, 2006, 02:44 PM   #10
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exactly, i am just going to use the fire forming to get on paper
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