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Old July 15, 2006, 10:35 AM   #26
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Wouldn't you have to make a profit on the ammo to have an implied liability? If it's his componants or he paid for them at least, then there would be no legal expectation of marketability or servicability or warrantability. I like the use his brass idea.
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Old July 17, 2006, 02:31 AM   #27
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That may be a little too confrontational, but I'll attribute it to style. Is there something wrong with the link? I don't always expect a respondent to go to the trouble to ferret out the applicable portions of a reference and spoon feed them here. A link is usually good enough. WESHOOT2 dug it out of the text, we can too.
That's nice.

I don't have a problem with confrontation, and this one hit home.

A citation, which is what "cite" is slang for, is a specific, definable piece of documentation. Anyone who has ever contributed to a knowledge base, written a paper for a college course, or, as we see here, posted to the internet knows exactly what a citation is, and how they are written.

No one is above being asked for a cite. Real scholars and real experts are pleased to demonstrate that expertise and professionalism by providing them UNASKED, in the body of a claim, or as a footnote, let alone when they are called upon to do so.

It is the difference between a foolish claim on an insignificant board on the internet by an anonymous fool pulling "facts", "figures", and "stuff" out of his neither regions and genuine, documented, valid information.

No one here has a reputation, and the claim that one was "impinged" made my day.

I needed the laugh.

Real reputations are created by expert opinion, with expertise that can be verified.

Gee? How would we do that?

Oh, wait, I know...

Made the boy swear, too.

One.
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Old July 17, 2006, 05:50 AM   #28
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I know how to swear / who you callin' boy?

The ATF does not require 'business'; they wrote "transfer".

I am sorry this subject makes folks less civil (me included) but I don't need to invent stuff. I just can't find all my ATF paperwork....LOL

I am not anonymous.......
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Old July 17, 2006, 12:57 PM   #29
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http://trac.syr.edu/laws/18USC922.html

Here is the text, read it yourself. It is perfectly legal to load ammo for your friend, unless you make a BUSINESS out of it.
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Old July 18, 2006, 08:44 AM   #30
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In my totally unsolicited (and by no means expert) opinion, the legal costs associated with defending against a civil suit from your buddy's widow or insurance company are just not worth the good will or savings you might be able to provide him. Let him buy his own components and show him how to reload on your press. Then you've taught him to fish.
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Old July 20, 2006, 05:29 AM   #31
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no, that ain't it

The feloney is (was?) described in the tax liabilities section.....
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Old July 20, 2006, 08:34 AM   #32
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Handloading and Reloading Liability

To load for somebody other than your self the BATF requires a a "Manufacturer's License and a minimum of $1,000,000 [one million] in liability insurance.
There is a way to get around this...
[1] Let the person buy all the components they will need.
[2] Teach them hoow to reload the round they want.
[3] Supervis their loading.
They take the responsibility for their own loads.
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Old July 20, 2006, 11:21 AM   #33
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Wee,

Please provide a link to what you are looking at. Everything I have seen applies to business activity.
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Old July 20, 2006, 11:48 AM   #34
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http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#h4


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(H4) Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer? [Back]

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]
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Old July 20, 2006, 02:35 PM   #35
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