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Old June 13, 2006, 08:25 PM   #1
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Lapping Scope Rings

Great article, which makes me wonder if sometimes the scope manufacturer gets the bad rap when the fault lies with installation and the rings.

Mr. Wilhite said he used a BSA Scope but did not mention the model???? I sure would like to know as I have a project in mind.

I notice that on some forums the BSA Scopes get a bad rap. After reading the article I wonder if it is deserved?
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Old June 19, 2006, 06:16 PM   #2
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I really would like to know the model of BSA Scope he was using....
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Old June 20, 2006, 06:42 PM   #3
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Email out to the author for which model.

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Old June 21, 2006, 11:55 AM   #4
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Eghad,

Sorry this took me some time. The author, Ken Wilhite, advised the following:

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My BSA scope is MD624X40IR. It has an adjustable objective and a mil-dot reticle. The one shortcoming is that it does not come with a sunshade as some of their similar models.
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Old June 22, 2006, 10:34 PM   #5
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Thanks a bunch!

BTW...your a bad influence Mr. Hansen. I read your article on the 1887 IAC lever gun. Went by the gun store to get a Speeloader for a revolver. They had one of those 1887s on display. They had a total of three but they now only have 2..... I didnt have the cash but I had a couple of firearms that have just been taking up safe space that the dealer liked.
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Old June 23, 2006, 10:18 AM   #6
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BTW...your a bad influence Mr. Hansen.
Not the first time I've heard that. Mr. Hansen passed away in 2001. I'm his son and answer to Denny.
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Old June 23, 2006, 11:26 AM   #7
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Sorry about the Mr.

When I was raised in the south when addressing other folks it was maam or sir preceeded by a yes or no and everybody was Mr. or Mrs or Miss. I work for the military and am in the habit of using Mr. or Mrs, Ms., Miss or thier rank when in public. I still say maam or sir to everybody unless its an NCO or enlisted person I am addressing. I get strange looks from the younger people behind the counter sometimes these days when I use maam or sir.

But since you have given permission to use the given name Denny it is.

I have checked out the scope and it can be had for under $100.00 and Wheeler Engineering makes 1 " and 30 mm tools for lapping and alignment around $32.00 apiece from Midway. Its a project that can be done. The scope mount for a M1A/M14 is going to add some $$$ to it also. I hope to repeat the results the author got.

I am going to try it on a Sprigfield Super M1A match rifle I purchased in the 90s. My eyes are not as good as they used to be so I have thought about scoping it but didnt want to spend a small fortune if I decided to go back to iron sights.
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Old July 2, 2006, 12:04 PM   #8
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Scope rings

Well I read the article and was impressed so I ordered what I would need to lap all my rifles . I was really surprised so far all of them have had at the very least 90% contact without any lapping. I have the extend millet rings with the adjustment for windage on them the only place that they don't touch the scope is at the bottom and that is because there is a 3/8 inch hole in the ring either I am really lucky so far or these have turned out to be a really great find on my part. Oh I got them from Brownells. Be Safe Out There. Kurt
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Old July 2, 2006, 11:47 PM   #9
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Brownells...my fav place to buy parts and gun stuff The lapping stuff I plan on buying from them
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Old July 3, 2006, 09:35 AM   #10
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...and Wheeler Engineering makes 1 " and 30 mm tools for lapping and alignment around $32.00 apiece from Midway.
For about $32 one can buy the excellent Burris Signature scope rings too, with absolutely no lapping required.
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Old July 3, 2006, 09:49 AM   #11
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If on a budget, you can buy simple aluminum or steel tubing from the local hardware store, at least in 1".

As for lapping in general, if you don't do it, you've just relegated your scope to the effectiveness of one half its value. Just my opinion.
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Old July 6, 2006, 09:27 AM   #12
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Scope Rings

Rich the rings I have are not smooth the are cut at about ten lines to the inch. What I did was to use a small amount of gold inletting compound spread on the lower half of the ring to see just how far out of round the rings where. Well like I stated they where surprising the hole I described is actually a dimple which is about an 1/8 inch deep.I don't know if the rings fit so well because of the way they are cut or just make so well. I have some Leupold rings on my sons flat top and those rings did need to be lapped. I guess it was just the luck of the draw. Be Safe Out There Kurt
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Old July 6, 2006, 01:23 PM   #13
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Kurt-
No doubt that quality control can make a difference out of the box. But it is not simply the rings that generate the need for lapping; bases, the rifle platform itself and the location of base screw holes each affect the final alignment of the rings every bit as much as the rings themselves.

Even in your case, we can't say that lapping wasn't required until after you lapped, yes? Therefore.....lapping was required!

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Old July 7, 2006, 11:11 AM   #14
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Scope rings

I totally agree with you on that. That you need to check everything when you mount a scope. The holes in the receiver need to be aligned,the base mounts need to be aligned and so does all the rest. When I mount a scope I check everything and try to align all. The scope rings that have the windage adjustments on them really help if any thing below the rings are out of alignment. It usually takes me 4/5 hours to set one up from start to finish after checking and aligning and mounting but it's all worth the time invested. And as the author stated it sure does make a difference. Be Safe Out There Kurt
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