CCW incident in Baton Rouge? - Page 2

delta58 · February 24, 2006, 08:22 PM

Some people think that the rules only apply to other people. It sounds like SBS to me too.

jcoiii · February 24, 2006, 08:25 PM

Good shooting with the pucker factor no doubt in effect. 4 hits COM, then 1 to the head. Wow.

OneInTheChamber · February 24, 2006, 08:35 PM

Shows you even the .45 isn't the man stopper people make it out to be. I think he did a great job. This is the reason ccw is so good. Good job to him; using his pool skimmer in .45 caliber to clean the gene pool.

LICCW · February 24, 2006, 10:10 PM

I definitely want to know the details on the ammo, position of shooter and BG. I think the guy who can take 4 shots center mass and not stop from a .45 is on something more than just vitamins. PCP, steroids? I guess that solves the caliber vs. shot placement question. I commend the good samaritan for his cool head and correct actions. Good job.

Chris1911 · March 7, 2006, 04:30 PM

4 shots center mass +1 in head with a 45? This has really made me re think my choice on carrying ANY concealed weapon short of a 454 casull

The guy must have been DRT, he just didn't know it yet? Maybe there's something we haven't heard yet, I want to see it on video, then i'll believe it..LOL

Chris1911 · March 9, 2006, 01:05 PM

I heard an update on this incident...I don't know how old it is but for what its worth here it is: Apparently, the CCW holder's second shot would have been deadly and incapacitating to the offender according to the coroner who performed the autopsy (a + to anyone carrying a 45 LOL)... There's no law stating that you can't keep firing until the threat ceases to exist...I would have kept firing too.

Have you guys heard about the NAACP? I am absolutely horrified by these people...They are demanding action be taken against the officer and the good samaritan. I don't care what color your skin is, if you are a violent felon with prior history and you nearly beat a cop to death over a traffic ticket for a FUNERAL procession you interrupted, you get whats coming to you..What is this society turning into? Have people lost touch with reality?
Sorry if I'm venting

Chris 1911

XavierBreath · March 9, 2006, 01:20 PM

Bleeding heart related article

A better article

Chris1911 · March 9, 2006, 04:09 PM

I do feel awful for the Temple family...It must be awful to lose a family member in such an awful way, or in any way...But this exists in every shooting.....The victim (criminal) always has family, friends, acquaintances giving eye witness testimonies to "what a good person he was", "he wouldn't hurt a fly", but the truth is, why was Mr. Temple a violent convicted felon? Was it because he was "harmless", and "well-reserved"?

Think about this: Is it not true that most people try to be a bit more reserved around their family, around the people they love and care for. For instance, we might talk differently to our "buddy down the street" then we do to our mothers.....And that is what blinds these people...Sure, Mrs. Temple probably remembered her son as that loving and kind person who volunteered all of his time on the weekends.....But that's probably because he never tried to beat the tar out of her.......What I am trying to say here is that sometimes the people who love us have a unique image of us....People try to remembe the best of the people they love, often things that aren't the best balance of a person's character...A surreal image so to speak...

Double Naught Spy · March 11, 2006, 11:05 AM

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Jeez 4 shots COM, 1 to the head
I definitely want to know the details on the ammo, position of shooter and BG. I think the guy who can take 4 shots center mass and not stop from a .45 is on something more than just vitamins. PCP, steroids? I guess that solves the caliber vs. shot placement question. I commend the good samaritan for his cool head and correct actions. Good job.

Being shot multiple times is nothing new and it most definitely does happen, on occassion, to folks not on drugs, pcp, alcohol, or anything else other than adrenaline. There is a good chance that if the guy wasn't going to collapse immediately after the first two to the chest, he probably would not have collapsed with any more until bleeding out which can take a while, or via a CNS shot which turned out to be shot 5 for the samaritan.

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I heard an update on this incident...I don't know how old it is but for what its worth here it is: Apparently, the CCW holder's second shot would have been deadly and incapacitating to the offender according to the coroner who performed the autopsy (a + to anyone carrying a 45 LOL)... There's no law stating that you can't keep firing until the threat ceases to exist...I would have kept firing too.

While the second shot from the samaritan might have been deadly, a mortal wound, it obviously was NOT incapacitating. In the words of the guys from the FBI when describing Platt during the fight in Miami, Platt was dying, but was not dying fast enough. Platt's kills happened after he was mortally wounded.

XavierBreath · March 11, 2006, 11:30 AM

Temple attempted to bribe Officer Harrison to get out of the traffic ticket. He had several thousand dollars in cash in his pocket. Public bribery is a felony in Louisiana. Thus, Officer Harrison was arresting a felon when he was attacked by Temple.

More.

An eyewitness account.

Latest info shows Temple had no drugs or etoh in his system. He checked clean. Anger can create the same effect of withstanding wounds that would otherwise incapacitate.

riverrat66 · March 15, 2006, 06:44 PM

Temple was an out of control thug, period! According to court records, he was already on probation for simple battery and simple damage to property at the time of his death. As the eyewitness says "the officer took quite a beating". But naturally the NAACP is going to make this into a racial thing, "Just simply that Mr. Temple punched the police officer is not enough," said Baton Rouge NAACP President Kwame Asante. Simply punched the police officer! Can you believe that? This guy beat the cop to a friggin' pulp! Mr. Stephens should have saved 4 bullets and simply put one into this guys noggin' and got it over with.

I wonder how Temple's family would feel if I tried to cut into his funeral precession?

I wonder what the NAACP would have to say if Temple was white and the cop was black?

nefshooter · March 17, 2006, 04:36 PM

Someone should buy the guy a box of bullets to replace the ones he used!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walter · March 23, 2006, 09:56 PM

It sounds like a classic case of "'roid rage" to me.
http://whyfiles.org/090doping_sport/5.html

Walter

C Philip · March 23, 2006, 10:05 PM

I thought that all states had a "good samaritan" law? Or is there a specific one that applies to deadly force? If so, what states have this law? Is PA one of them?

February 24, 2006, 08:22 PM	#26
delta58 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2005 Location: Florida panhandle Posts: 128	Some people think that the rules only apply to other people. It sounds like SBS to me too. __________________ Doug Helms <>< "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." Ben Franklin.

February 24, 2006, 08:25 PM	#27
jcoiii Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: TN Posts: 556	Good shooting with the pucker factor no doubt in effect. 4 hits COM, then 1 to the head. Wow. __________________ Truth knows no political correctness. I do not aim with my hand.......

February 24, 2006, 08:35 PM	#28
OneInTheChamber Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2005 Posts: 789	Shows you even the .45 isn't the man stopper people make it out to be. I think he did a great job. This is the reason ccw is so good. Good job to him; using his pool skimmer in .45 caliber to clean the gene pool. __________________ Insert witty, comical, and/or significant quote here.

February 24, 2006, 10:10 PM	#29
LICCW Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2005 Posts: 266	Jeez 4 shots COM, 1 to the head I definitely want to know the details on the ammo, position of shooter and BG. I think the guy who can take 4 shots center mass and not stop from a .45 is on something more than just vitamins. PCP, steroids? I guess that solves the caliber vs. shot placement question. I commend the good samaritan for his cool head and correct actions. Good job.

March 9, 2006, 01:05 PM	#31
Chris1911 Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Location: Sparta, NJ Posts: 58	I heard an update on this incident I heard an update on this incident...I don't know how old it is but for what its worth here it is: Apparently, the CCW holder's second shot would have been deadly and incapacitating to the offender according to the coroner who performed the autopsy (a + to anyone carrying a 45 LOL)... There's no law stating that you can't keep firing until the threat ceases to exist...I would have kept firing too. Have you guys heard about the NAACP? I am absolutely horrified by these people...They are demanding action be taken against the officer and the good samaritan. I don't care what color your skin is, if you are a violent felon with prior history and you nearly beat a cop to death over a traffic ticket for a FUNERAL procession you interrupted, you get whats coming to you..What is this society turning into? Have people lost touch with reality? Sorry if I'm venting Chris 1911

March 7, 2006, 04:30 PM	#30
Chris1911 Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Location: Sparta, NJ Posts: 58	4 shots center mass +1 in head with a 45? This has really made me re think my choice on carrying ANY concealed weapon short of a 454 casull The guy must have been DRT, he just didn't know it yet? Maybe there's something we haven't heard yet, I want to see it on video, then i'll believe it..LOL

March 9, 2006, 01:20 PM	#32
XavierBreath Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2002 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 2,800	Bleeding heart related article A better article __________________ Xavier's Blog

March 9, 2006, 04:09 PM	#33
Chris1911 Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Location: Sparta, NJ Posts: 58	I do feel awful for the Temple family...It must be awful to lose a family member in such an awful way, or in any way...But this exists in every shooting.....The victim (criminal) always has family, friends, acquaintances giving eye witness testimonies to "what a good person he was", "he wouldn't hurt a fly", but the truth is, why was Mr. Temple a violent convicted felon? Was it because he was "harmless", and "well-reserved"? Think about this: Is it not true that most people try to be a bit more reserved around their family, around the people they love and care for. For instance, we might talk differently to our "buddy down the street" then we do to our mothers.....And that is what blinds these people...Sure, Mrs. Temple probably remembered her son as that loving and kind person who volunteered all of his time on the weekends.....But that's probably because he never tried to beat the tar out of her.......What I am trying to say here is that sometimes the people who love us have a unique image of us....People try to remembe the best of the people they love, often things that aren't the best balance of a person's character...A surreal image so to speak...

March 11, 2006, 11:30 AM	#35
XavierBreath Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2002 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 2,800	Temple attempted to bribe Officer Harrison to get out of the traffic ticket. He had several thousand dollars in cash in his pocket. Public bribery is a felony in Louisiana. Thus, Officer Harrison was arresting a felon when he was attacked by Temple. More. An eyewitness account. Latest info shows Temple had no drugs or etoh in his system. He checked clean. Anger can create the same effect of withstanding wounds that would otherwise incapacitate. __________________ Xavier's Blog Last edited by XavierBreath; March 11, 2006 at 12:24 PM.

March 15, 2006, 06:44 PM	#36
riverrat66 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2004 Location: Western New York Posts: 394	Taking out the trash Temple was an out of control thug, period! According to court records, he was already on probation for simple battery and simple damage to property at the time of his death. As the eyewitness says "the officer took quite a beating". But naturally the NAACP is going to make this into a racial thing, "Just simply that Mr. Temple punched the police officer is not enough," said Baton Rouge NAACP President Kwame Asante. Simply punched the police officer! Can you believe that? This guy beat the cop to a friggin' pulp! Mr. Stephens should have saved 4 bullets and simply put one into this guys noggin' and got it over with. I wonder how Temple's family would feel if I tried to cut into his funeral precession? I wonder what the NAACP would have to say if Temple was white and the cop was black?

March 17, 2006, 04:36 PM	#37
nefshooter Member Join Date: January 6, 2006 Posts: 46	Someone should buy the guy a box of bullets to replace the ones he used!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

March 23, 2006, 09:56 PM	#38
Walter Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: North Texas Posts: 630	It sounds like a classic case of "'roid rage" to me. http://whyfiles.org/090doping_sport/5.html Walter

March 23, 2006, 10:05 PM	#39
C Philip Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2005 Location: USA Posts: 784	I thought that all states had a "good samaritan" law? Or is there a specific one that applies to deadly force? If so, what states have this law? Is PA one of them?