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Old August 9, 2000, 05:20 PM   #1
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For the past four years I've been using
230gr. fmj reloads for all of my IDPA,
recreational, and handgun class shooting.
Now I'm down to my last thousand bullets
and am trying to decide whether to stay with
the above weight/style bullet or go with
a 200 gr. lead semi wadcutter.

The price difference is significant:

230 gr. fmj- $95.00 thousand

200 gr. semi- $37.00 thousand

My carry load is manufactured with a 230
grain bullet, thus my reasoning behind my
recreational/competition load.

If I drop down in weight to the semi wad-
cutter, will the point of impact be
different enough that I'll have to keep
adjusting my sights for the difference?
It's something I'd rather avoid.

Thanks.



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Old August 9, 2000, 05:44 PM   #2
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I didn't see any diff in my sig.I like the 200 gr semi wad.Seem very accurate and recoil is reduced.Guess you might want to get a few and check different loads to see if you can get to point of aim with your gun and the 200.

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Old August 9, 2000, 06:46 PM   #3
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What kind/type/barrel length?

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Old August 9, 2000, 07:21 PM   #4
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Changing your load from 230 jacketed to 200 gr lead will change your point of impact. However, It depends on what level of accuracy you want / need and what sport you are in. For most IPSC style course's the difference in point of impact will not be much. Just check a typical distance that your club does "head shots" and see if the difference bothers you.
You can order bullet sample packs from some of the on line bullet vendors like National Lead, and try 20 or so bullets before you buy them by the 1000's.
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Old August 9, 2000, 10:12 PM   #5
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Where are you buying your bullets?

I use Zero 230gr FMJ from Shooters Connection, and 1000 bullets are $66.00 delivered. (Just got some more last week and I have the invoice right here.) Granted, not as cheap as lead, but still better than $95.00/1000.
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Old August 9, 2000, 10:27 PM   #6
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Sport--
You are considering the LSWC bullets to replace the 230 FMJ, so you must not be too upset at the prospect of a little more difficult cleanup of pistol. And, yes, $95 vs $37 per thousand is a BIG increase. A good middle ground might be 225 to 230 RN lead bullets. Rucker, Kead, Zero, and numerous localized makers will furnish these for just a few dollars more per K. I think I gave $44 for my last thousand, and this was a little high--I was in a hurry for them.

Loaded with say, 5.4 gr. of 231 powder, or 5.7 Unique or 5.5 of Universal, you probably won't be able to tell the difference in these and your factory load, unless you use a machine rest at 50 yards. The loads all yield around 820 fps.

If do you decide to go with the 200 LSWC, point of impact probably won't be too different if you shoot at short range.

I probably shoot at least ten LRN bullets for each jacketed bullet I fire.

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Old August 10, 2000, 07:07 AM   #7
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Thanks for your replies...
Some answers to your questions:

Shooting a full size gov, model.
I buy my supplied from Widners in Tn.
Accuracy is very important...We are extremely
competative and a dropped point or two makes
a big difference. Clean-up after shooting is
not a factor. I've noticed a lot of the other
shooters use the lead semi wadcutters, but
until now, I have had no reason to consider
switching bullet configurations.

Based upon your comments, I'm going to load
up a hundred rounds of the swc for this
weekends match. If I don't like them, I'll
probably switch over the 230 grain lead
round nose.....Trying to keep the costs down
but the performance intact.

Thanks again.
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Old August 10, 2000, 07:31 AM   #8
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Recommend: 200g LSWC, CCI300, IMI case, 5.5-5.9g W231, OAL 1.255-1.260", finish using Lee Carbide Factory Crimp die.
This load offers (normally) great accuracy, and makes 165-190PF.

For pure target work switch to Bullseye, 3.6-4.2g.

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Old August 10, 2000, 04:44 PM   #9
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WESHOOT...

I've printed your load recommendation.
Will use it for this first batch....
I'm going to substitute Winchester primers,
but will start off with the lightest
powder charge and work from there.

I've noticed most problems I've seen with
the swc loads come from bullet seating depth.
I'll follow your OAL parameters.

Thanks
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Old August 10, 2000, 06:52 PM   #10
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Sport,

Let us know how it goes..........and be safe.

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Old August 10, 2000, 07:07 PM   #11
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Just a suggestion. Check out www.westcoastbullets.com for really good pricing on full metal plated rounds in virtually any caliber. Most .45's run $38-45 per 1000 which is about the same cost as lead. Personally, I'd rather limit lead exposure as much as possible and I've loaded thousands of these with no problem at all.

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