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Old July 17, 2000, 07:32 PM   #1
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I was wondering if any of you have experience with the new Tite Groups powder?

A gunsmith friend of mine and I are working on a .45 load using this powder and jacketed bullets. I am after accuracy in 3 different .45s. The first batch will be 4.4 gr over 230 jacketed. Hope to try them later this week, but am interested in others experience as well.
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Old July 17, 2000, 09:36 PM   #2
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I bought a can of Tite Group and am still trying to get one with it. So far I've tried it with four calibers and about ten different bullets with no luck. Every gun has its own tastes and apparently none of mine like this powder.
The only way to know is to try. Maybe you'll have better luck.

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Old July 17, 2000, 10:14 PM   #3
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I've used it with good results in 9mm and .45LC. It meters well and burns clean. I'm on my third can now.

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Old July 18, 2000, 08:00 AM   #4
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Recommend W231 for 45ACP; proven by the test of time. (also consider "Bullseye")

Titegroup seems a bit 'fast' for 45ACP, designed for light loads in straight-walled revolver cases.

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Old July 18, 2000, 08:48 AM   #5
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I agree with WESHOOT2. Win 231 is a very good power. Also My experace with Titegroup is that it seems to have more felt recoil then W231 or bullseye.
I load for 9mm and 38Spl.As far as accuracy, I could not get titegroup to perform any better then W231 or bullseye.

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Old July 18, 2000, 05:39 PM   #6
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If you can shoot, .45 ACP, 200 grain LSWC and 4.5 grains of Titegroup with 1.260 OAL .470 crimp will shoot 1" to sub 1" groups.

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Old July 19, 2000, 08:04 AM   #7
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I've been using Titegroup for .45 ACP bullseye loads for about a year and a half. If it's inferior to Bullseye and W231 in accuracy, the difference in my pistols has been very small. I've gotten my best groups with W231 and VV N310 but my impressions are all based on offhand groups; I haven't done any Ransom Rest testing.

Some of the loads I've had success with:

Winchester 230gr FMJ over 4.5gr Titegroup

Mil-surp 185gr JSWC over 4.4gr Titegroup

Star 185gr LSWC-HP over 4.1gr Titegroup

These loads have all been used in 1911-style pistols with Kart barrels.

I like Titegroup because it's cheap, it meters well, it burns cleanly, and it produces excellent accuracy. The biggest drawback is that it's a dense powder, so a double charge of a light load won't overflow the case. There isn't much loading data for it either.

In my experience with light loads, Titegroup performs very similarly to Alliant Bullseye. For charges in the range of 3.5 to 4.5 grains in .45 ACP, the two are nearly interchangeable. I don't think it would be wise to substitute Titegroup for Bullseye in any heavier loads.

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Old July 20, 2000, 11:34 AM   #8
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I use tite group for my 45 and really like it. I load 4.8 grains,200 grain lswcs,crimp of .470 and oal of 1.260. I can make one large hole at 15 yards.(on my good days)Thats less than 1 inch.Not trying to brag,Its just good powder. sj
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Old July 20, 2000, 06:46 PM   #9
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I've had pretty good results with TG. in 9mm. Don't know about .45s. Results have been similar to W231 in accuracy. Dont know if it helps, but most accurate loads with W231 for me is close to book max, but with TG., best loads obtained at lower to midrange book loads....ol blue
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Old July 20, 2000, 06:49 PM   #10
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By the way, TG. is about $3. a pound cheaper than W231 where I buy my powder. I like that a lot....ol blue
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Old July 20, 2000, 08:34 PM   #11
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W231 works well, as does Bullseye, but you will likely find that TG is cheaper. I use it for my bulk loads in 9/40/45 and it does very good for Berrys bullets for 25/50 yd plinking on plates. VERY, VERY clean in my guns, good accuracy, and relatively higher felt recoil.

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