The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 2, 2006, 11:07 PM   #1
Buckmaster74
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2006
Posts: 18
Sabot slugs: Anyone re/hand load them?

These are the products I know to be available.

1. Kits from Slugs R Us (Hastings laser accurate sabots unloaded)

2. Collet Cup Sabots from BPI (With or without Speer 45 or 50 cal bullet)

3. Lyman and Lee molds (Loaded in standard trap wads)

Are any of these any good? If you know of something better, I would appreciate the info.

Thanks.
Buckmaster74 is offline  
Old January 3, 2006, 09:50 AM   #2
Rottweiler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 30, 2001
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 346
I have used the Lee and Lyman molds. The Lee slugs didn't perfom very well at all for me. Dinner plate groups at 25 yards. The Lymans are a different story, They shoot coffee cup size groups at 100 yards out of the same gun.
__________________
Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845
Rottweiler is offline  
Old January 4, 2006, 04:07 PM   #3
Poodleshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 7, 2000
Location: Floating down the James River in VA
Posts: 2,535
I have good luck with the Lee slugs over a charge of Universal, or using my own Green Dot and Unique loads. This is in a fully rifled Mossberg 500 24" barrel.
The slugs mike out at about .68,which happens to be my bore size.
Poodleshooter is offline  
Old January 5, 2006, 01:10 PM   #4
Buckmaster74
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2006
Posts: 18
Poodle,

What kind of performace do you get from the lee slugs?
Buckmaster74 is offline  
Old January 5, 2006, 03:56 PM   #5
Poodleshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 7, 2000
Location: Floating down the James River in VA
Posts: 2,535
In the mossberg,I've tested them at 25yds (one big ragged hole of torn up paper since the wads impact close by) and at 50yds. They were grouping about 4" at 50yds IIRC. This is with iron sights and the rifled Mossberg barrel on a very cold day. I'm still developing my loads for them. The load I used was closer in performance to a "reduced recoil" slug-about 1320fps,IIRC.
I don't stock most of the recommended powders for slugs (HS-6,HS-7,etc), so I have done some improvising based on 1oz lead shot loads. The blue dot loads that the books recommend were absurdly large in charge weight and ignited very poorly in cold weather,which led me to using slightly faster powders.
Poodleshooter is offline  
Old January 5, 2006, 05:27 PM   #6
Bobshouse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 29, 2000
Location: CalaBANALLGUNSifornia
Posts: 328
I pour and load my own Lee 1 ounce drive key slugs. Shoot them from my slug barrel on my 835 Mossberg. Great accuracy, can shoot 3" groups at 100 yards.

Now on the other hand, the Lyman slugs for some reason don't shoot worth a crap. I think the wad keeps throwing them off center, many keyhole. Someone here posted months ago about loading them with buffer material, but that results in higher pressures. Found it easier to sell the mould and stick with the Lee.

The drive key design really holds the slugs into the wads for positive rotation down the rifled barrels for great accuracy! They don't get swallowed up the cavity like the Lyman slugs.

Bob
Bobshouse is offline  
Old January 6, 2006, 01:40 PM   #7
Buckmaster74
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2006
Posts: 18
Anyone try the slugs r us or BPI sabots?
Buckmaster74 is offline  
Old January 6, 2006, 03:55 PM   #8
Leftoverdj
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 15, 2004
Posts: 934
The Lee slugs are very particular about the wad and hull combination. I'm still looking for good results. Got sidetracked when I had a Lyman Forster type mould recut with driving bands to bring it to full bore diameter.
Leftoverdj is offline  
Old January 8, 2006, 12:02 PM   #9
Ruger4570
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 3, 2005
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 2,136
I have had good luck with the Lee slug. BUT, I have experimented a LOT. I have tried different wads and have even paper patched the slug to insure good contact with the bore. Some thing work better than others. I use 2 different rifled guns, a Ithaca Deerslayer II and a Rem 870. Neither seems to like what the other likes. So it is truly a case of playing around to find what YOUR gun likes. I have shot the Lees into around 2" at 100 yards with my Ithaca, mostly 3" to 4" with the Remy. As far as factory sabots, both guns seem to like the Rem Copper Solid and Hornady slugs, with Lightfield very close behind. Most othere is my guns seem to be so so. As usual, some being better than others.
Ruger4570 is offline  
Old January 14, 2006, 01:35 AM   #10
Buckmaster74
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2006
Posts: 18
What nobody out there that has tried something other than the Lee or Lyman slugs?
Buckmaster74 is offline  
Old January 14, 2006, 01:43 PM   #11
Rottweiler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 30, 2001
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 346
Never found another brand of mold to try other than Lyman and Lee or I would have.
__________________
Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845
Rottweiler is offline  
Old January 16, 2006, 12:23 AM   #12
Buckmaster74
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2006
Posts: 18
Ok Guys,

I guess nobody out there has tried the Slugs R Us or CCS Sabots?

If I were to go with the Lee or Lyman slugs which should I go with? What lead and loading data should I use? What kind of accuracy can I expect from an 870 with 23" cant barrell?

I was really hoping that I might find some opinions on the SLRUS and CCS's. I am trying to find after market components or kits, to load comparable ammo with the big names.

Thanks to all who have replied.
Buckmaster74 is offline  
Old January 16, 2006, 10:42 AM   #13
Rottweiler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 30, 2001
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 346
My gun that made the groups I mentioned before is an 870 with a 26" hastings heavy barrel with a cantilever mount.

Buckmaster, Got a link for Slugs R Us or CCS? I'm feelin a little experimental and would like to look into these.
__________________
Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845
Rottweiler is offline  
Old January 19, 2006, 07:25 PM   #14
fatboy02
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 27, 2005
Location: Olivet, MI
Posts: 163
ballisic products

Check out this link, I am going to try some of the dangerous game and BluForce. I do not reload (yet) but my girlfriends dad does I am going to have him teach me with these for slugs. Ballistic Products has a pretty good catalog for free too.

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/bpi...lug/slugs1.htm
fatboy02 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2013 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09250 seconds with 9 queries