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Old January 9, 2006, 10:04 PM   #1
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Lead and jacketed bullets

can the data for a jacketed bullet be used for a lead bullet? For example can I use a 200gr lead SWC in place of a 200gr jacketed hollow point? I know I've heard never to use lead data for jacketed bullets though.
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Old January 9, 2006, 10:33 PM   #2
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Yac, yes, you can use jacketed bullet data for lead bullets provided that the pressure is not too great for the lead bullet. Substituting a lead 200 SWC for a 200 grain JHP in a .45 ACP would work fine. The same substitution in a full house .44 mag load would be likely to be wildly inaccurate and to cause major leading.
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Old January 10, 2006, 12:46 AM   #3
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Leftoverdj:

Actually yes its a 45 ACP load I'm wondering about. Specifically it is using 5.2gr of Titegroup and substituting a 200gr lead swc for a 200gr jacketed hollow point. And yes its a published load.
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Old January 10, 2006, 10:08 PM   #4
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All I shoot in pistol is cast
H&G 68 208gr
W231 ..5.3gr
OAL 1.240

I also cast them
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Old January 11, 2006, 12:28 AM   #5
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PDshooter those look exactly like the 200gr SWC bullets I use. I loaded those with 5.2gr of Titegroup, OAL was 1.25" which seems to feed the best in my 1911. I cant wait to try them out Does anyone have much experience using Titegroup in the 45 ACP? Does it have less muzzle flash and less report than say Bullseye?
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Old January 11, 2006, 07:01 AM   #6
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tite group

my titegroup load is 200 gr lrnfp and 5.0 grs of titegroup i never used unique i use to use blue dot and its a million time better than that mainly cause of a cleaner burn it seems like there is a slight flash with titegroup but nothing like h110
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Old January 11, 2006, 09:49 AM   #7
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I've found 5.0gr of Titegroup to be plenty under a 200gr cast SWC as well. 5.2 is the maximum published for the JHP. I always recommend starting at least 10% below max (when the powder allows, never with 296) and working up.

I used to load 4.8gr Titegroup with swaged lead SWC and had some fede problems. Don't really know yet if it was the swaged bullet, the load, or the magazines. Changed them all at once. I'm 75% sure it was the magazines though.
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