The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 27, 2005, 11:40 PM   #1
Senior Member
Join Date: August 26, 2004
Posts: 194
Rainer HP's

I've been please with Rainer's FMJ bullets in the 9mm for awhile. I was thinking of tring some of there hollow points. Being a hard cast, will these bullets expand enough to do any thing on say small game, or even blow up a pop can?
bikenjam is offline  
Old December 27, 2005, 11:57 PM   #2
Senior Member
Join Date: January 25, 2005
Location: Texas of course
Posts: 277
Rainiers are plated.

115's are the 'Hex' design and will definitely expand if you drive them.

I've used literally thousands of them and like them quite a bit.


Nobody likes war, but if you find yourself in one - fight for those you serve with and to make the trip home. Show mercy to those that deserve it and a relentless, ruthless, cunning evil to those who don't.
BigSlick is offline  
Old January 1, 2006, 09:11 AM   #3
Senior Member
Join Date: February 20, 1999
Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country)
Posts: 14,270

I've used the Rainier 124g HEX-HP in commercial civilian defense ammo; so did others.

You want 'explosive'? Highly recommend Remington's conventional 115g JHP.
"all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"
WESHOOT2 is offline  
Old January 6, 2006, 03:39 PM   #4
Junior Member
Join Date: August 17, 2005
Posts: 12
I haven't seen any expand

I guess it must just be me, but I have never seen one expand. I load them in .357, 50AE and 40 SW. The 40 load is a real light one for the wife, so I wouldn't expect it to do much. The 357 and 50 loads are fired through my Desert Eagles so they are loaded fairly hot. I can go downrange to the backstop and dig out the bullets and they are still solid with no expansion. Maybe the wooden backstop is sealing them up? I have shot other brands and some expand, some don't.
Saber is offline  
Old January 6, 2006, 03:50 PM   #5
Senior Member
Join Date: October 15, 2004
Posts: 934
You don't need no expansion on small game with a 9mm. Fair sized meplat or a swc design will do the trick nicely.
Leftoverdj is offline  
Old January 6, 2006, 03:53 PM   #6
Junior member
Join Date: September 28, 2005
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 6,465
Being a hard cast, will these bullets expand enough to do any thing on say small game, or even blow up a pop can?
From Rainier's website, the FAQ page:

Q5. Why are there no cannelures on any of your bullets?
A. Because our bullets are so soft a cannelure groove is not needed to achieve a positive, tight grip of the bullet in the case mouth.

They aren't hard cast.
azredhawk44 is offline  
Old January 8, 2006, 07:35 AM   #7
Senior Member
Join Date: May 15, 2002
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,390
Yeah, they're about as far from hard cast as you can get.
I don't know how they form their slugs, but since the copper prevents any leading, they can get away with being about as dead soft as they can be.
I'm not just a gun.
I'm YOUR gun.
(Hold me.)
caz223 is offline  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2015 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent:
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.07165 seconds with 9 queries