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Old September 8, 2005, 11:23 AM   #1
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Reloading .45ACP question

I'm about to pick up the 3pc Lee die set and was wondering, should I pick up the taper die also?
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Old September 8, 2005, 11:25 AM   #2
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Yep.
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Old September 8, 2005, 11:28 AM   #3
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Yep. .469-.471
No roll crimps in 45 autos.
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Old September 8, 2005, 11:34 AM   #4
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thanks guys, i only ask because on midway under the description, it says the taper crimp is somewhat built into the seating die. But i've read that to get a better crimp, the taper crimp die is needed.
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Old September 8, 2005, 11:51 AM   #5
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That probably means that if you'll be loading jacketed, then the seating die is ok but that if you'll be loading lead then you better get a dedicated tapercrimp die. Lead requires a slightly bigger flare on the case mouth than jacketed.
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Old September 8, 2005, 01:09 PM   #6
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Are you loading on a progressive? If you are doing it on a singlestage then I wouldnt add the extra step unless you dont load much.
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Old September 8, 2005, 02:21 PM   #7
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I use the Lee three piece standard dies for all my .45ACP loads, including cast lead bullets. The regular die gives a perfectly acceptable taper crimp.
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Old September 8, 2005, 08:16 PM   #8
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If you're going to seat and crimp separately, use the Lee Factory Crimp Die. Much easier to control the crimp and post-sizes the loaded cases.
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Old September 8, 2005, 10:51 PM   #9
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taper crimp die

I crimp separate. Mostly I load LSWC bullets and it works best. I have heard Lee now sels a four die set for .45ACP that includes the taper crimp die. Be sure to get the carbide die set not the steel dies. Carbide dies don't require the case to be lubed.

the Leee 4 die set is part number 90968 for .45ACP
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Old September 9, 2005, 09:40 AM   #10
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Well, I suggest Hornady's New Dimension die set and I recommend the Hornady taper crimp die in addition. It'll cost you a bit more but to me, it's well worth it.
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Old September 9, 2005, 12:34 PM   #11
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any reason as to why the hornady dies would be better?
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Old September 10, 2005, 05:09 AM   #12
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Just buy the Lee Factory Crimp Die and forget about it. It will end chambering issues. Some people knock Lee but the Factory Crimp Die is one product that most agree favorably upon.
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Old September 10, 2005, 07:51 AM   #13
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Ignore my post Evil. Looks like you've made your decision. I was out of line for suggesting another brand. I will say one thing: If you're going to load cast, forget the FCD and get a standard taper crimp die.
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Old September 10, 2005, 09:51 AM   #14
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crazy, don't take it that way, i was just asking for you input. I'm a sucker for information and was just looking for you opinion on them.
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Old September 10, 2005, 10:17 AM   #15
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Lee

Fine as long as it's the carbide set; add a LEE Carbide Factory Crimp die.

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Old September 10, 2005, 12:56 PM   #16
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No offense was taken Evil. The reason I suggest a standard taper crimp die (not a profile die) over the FCD for loading cast is you'll end up sizing down the bullet along with the case with the FCD. It negates having the standard .452" for a cast bullet diameter. Of couse, the FCD lovers will be along shortly to tell you I'm fos.
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Old September 10, 2005, 03:49 PM   #17
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you'll end up sizing down the bullet along with the case with the FCD.
I've heard this before. Is it true? Has anyone ever FCD'd a .452 lead bullet and pulled it to find its then .451?
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Old September 10, 2005, 03:54 PM   #18
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well........

Not for me, even when using my 252g .453" LSWC-FP Meister bullets designed for the 45 Colt; I use the LEE FCD for just about every application (but oddly, I have the Hornady dies in 45 ACP and use the taper crimp for specific applications. Odd, ay?).
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Old September 10, 2005, 04:03 PM   #19
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I have never pulled a bullet to see either. But really have no need to as the accuracy is more than adequate for my needs (it's more accurate than me).
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Old September 12, 2005, 11:00 PM   #20
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I've been reloading .45acp using the Lee 3-die set for about 3 months and maybe 500 rounds. Have not missed the Factory Crimp Die. (Even though I have one for 9mm and .380acp.)
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