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Old May 6, 2005, 10:56 PM   #1
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What do you do with your CCW---

in 2 different scenarios:
1. CCW and you drive to a place where you aren't able to CCW(bar,casino, etc...)but weren't expecting to go there. Do you leave it in your car somewhere to be stolen?
2. You CCW and are walking and decide to go into a place that doesn't allow CCW? Can't leave it in your car so now what?
Reason I ask is I use Thunderwear and every day CCW when leaving the house. I do enter these places with my CCW since it's deep concealment and I don't want to leave it in my car or not, not enter a place when walking. Other places might be a sporting event, park or college. Many times I've been CCW at work and the guys decide to go to a game after work so since it is deep concealment I've never been made---I'm not sure what the penalty is for CCW in a place you shouldn't---any ideas.
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Old May 6, 2005, 11:19 PM   #2
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I'm not sure what the penalty is for CCW in a place you shouldn't---any ideas.
Yeah. Find out. Some states it's a felony, meaning big time penalties and loss of gun rights for life. Go to packing.org and you should be able to find out.

Regarding leaving your gun in a car, I agree, that is to be avoided whenever possible. Get one of those small handgun safes and bolt it to the floor of your car. You can almost certainly find one that'll fit under a seat. Sure, it could still be stolen, but it'll be much less likely. But if it does get stolen, you'll be able to tell the cops the extreme measures you went to. They'll find that refreshing, and you'll feel like such a damn fine citizen you won't be able to stand it.
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Old May 6, 2005, 11:20 PM   #3
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I would never carry someplace legally prohibited in my state, such as a bar. Coming upon a no-carry sign in, say, some hardware store doesn't deter me. I know that's not exactly what you asked--it's just my carry policy.
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Old May 7, 2005, 12:50 AM   #4
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Well, we can carry in bars and casinos here but when I have somewhere to go that is prohibited (say the House of Blues in Mandalay Bay) I leave it in the truck. I'd rather do that than leave it at home and be without it all night.
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Old May 7, 2005, 10:11 PM   #5
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Yeah, I hate to do it, but I leave it under the seat and lock the doors. Not much else to do.
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Old May 8, 2005, 11:08 AM   #6
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Have a pistol lock box bolted to the center of the floor board (the hump). Will hold my pistol & spare mags.
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Old May 8, 2005, 12:14 PM   #7
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What to do?

So far I've never run into any place I couldn't carry except to work, and in a couple of hospitals. What I've done is unload my gun, loop a cable lock through the action, lock that in the glove box, lock the glove box, then lock the car.

I figure that way if somone does break into my car and steals my gun, I can at least claim I did everything I could to disable it.
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Old May 8, 2005, 03:46 PM   #8
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I NEVER leave my gun unattended in a vehicle. It is either on me or home in the safe, period. I don't fly and haven't had the opportunity of appearing before a judge either.

However-where I live a violation is usually a trespassing ticket. If it was a felony-I would have to change a lot of my habits/routines.
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Old May 8, 2005, 04:00 PM   #9
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1st, I will not go into a place that doesn't allow CCW if there is ANY way around it.
2nd, if I just have to go somewhere it's illegal (like a school) I will unload it and lock it in the glove box with a trigger lock on it.
You've just got to accept the fact that you will not be able to carry 100% of the time unless you never leave home.
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Old May 8, 2005, 04:34 PM   #10
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Our state law just requires us to lock it in the car out of sight, like the glove compartment, under the seat. In our area, an officer's car was stolen with his handgun still in it. The thief was caught and help the authorities locate the handgun. The officer was never brought up on charges for allowing his weapon to get into questionable hands.
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Old May 8, 2005, 04:34 PM   #11
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You've just got to accept the fact that you will not be able to carry 100% of the time unless you never leave home.
In this "new america", yeah I guess.

Who is going to protect you? The LEO's, the security guards, whom? Man's law is asinine when it comes to actually giving the right to life to others, it is made to take it from them.

I care not for such laws and my life, even if it's not mine but entrusted to me, is greater than any laws that man can create.

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Old May 8, 2005, 06:27 PM   #12
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The only places I can't legally carry are courthouses and places that serve alcohol here in AL. I'll carry everywhere else. If a store has a sign on the door I figure what they don't know won't hurt them. Of course I've never seen a store here that forbid carry in it. I don't go to either of the above illegal places to carry unless I know I'm going there. Not a problem for me here in AL i guess.
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Old May 9, 2005, 03:04 AM   #13
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In OR, only federal installations and courthouses are an issue (besides that policy at work...).

I have no issue leaving it in my car/truck. Anything I carry concealed is probably worth less than $500 anyway. I'm more worried about my vehicle getting stolen.



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Old May 9, 2005, 04:03 AM   #14
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I have no choice but to leave mine in the vehicle as well. I work in a hospital and am not allowed to carry in. I would rather take the chance of leaving it in the vehicle than leaving it at home on an almost daily basis and not have it if the need arises.
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Old May 9, 2005, 06:59 AM   #15
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Won't go into your Q about where to carry. As for something more sufficient than just stuffing your firearm under your seat these are available just about everywhere for around $30:





Believe it or not, if you can train yourself to use one of these, they're actually pretty darn secure for general use. If someone just happened to come across it during a quick burglary, or while parked in a parking lot, if they didn't happen to have a substantial wire cutter I doubt they'd be able to remove it in any reasonable amount of time. And if they did somehow, they literally have to destroy the box to get it open, with a good chance the firearm would be damaged as well.

Really ain't too bad for $30 - I've got one...
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Old May 9, 2005, 12:14 PM   #16
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Nortonics - can you send me a link on where I can buy that?

As to the topic at hand -

If I know in advance that there is a plan to go out with the "guys" to a place that does not allow CC:

I leave the piece at home. Especially if there is a chance that a valet would have to park my car. Otherwise I don't go.

If I have to go, and there is no way around it - Open Carry is an option here in VA with regards to Bars and Restaurants. Otherwise, leave it in the car.

Not a fan of the thunderwear or IWB. Dont think its comfortable enough to wear with any decent looking pants.
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Old May 9, 2005, 12:55 PM   #17
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I use a smartcarry, and while there is no chance of being discovered I would still find a way to lock it in a "safe" mounted in the car if this is a common problem.
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Old May 9, 2005, 01:18 PM   #18
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Duxman wrote: Nortonics - can you send me a link on where I can buy that?
Well, those pics above come from an AuctionArms.com auction here:

Gun Pistol Storage Car Safe conceal carry case

They're actually offered by "The American Association of Certified Firearms Instructors" here:

Secure-It Handgun Storage Safe

Do some searches on your favorite engine for "secure it" or secure-it", maybe with "handgun" or "safe" added and you'll find plenty of sellers...
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Old May 9, 2005, 02:54 PM   #19
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I like that a lot. Going to have to pick one up. Unfortunately, as I work at a VA hospital, I cannot even have a gun in my car when I go to work.
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Old May 9, 2005, 04:04 PM   #20
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I usually just carry mine unless magnatometers are in place. It is concealed and no one knows.
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Old May 10, 2005, 08:10 AM   #21
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I really like the idea of the Secure-It. Only problem is my primary carry is a 5" 1911 .

Of course the best way to remedy this is to go ahead and buy that Springfield GI Champion I have had my eye on right? I'm sure my wife will see the logic in that....lol.

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Old May 10, 2005, 08:17 AM   #22
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A couple of times a week I have to go to schools, churches and the courthouse all of which are a no no when it comes to CCW.
Some of us have to cope with that.

The metal detectors at our local courthouse by the way will pick up your keys, your wrist watch or even a small amount of pocket change.
Theres no way you can sneak a peice through one without a lot of luck and providence.
It would be nice if the rocket scientists who came up with these provisios had also required such places to have a "check your gun" system in place, wouldn't it?
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Old May 10, 2005, 12:16 PM   #23
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If I can'y carry there, I don't go. Make a point of asking for the manager/owner and leaving a little card that says why I don't do business there anymore. Some store owners are getting wise and asking what they can do about it. I give them another card with the names of the local state reps and senators, and tell them they need to work to help get the law changed. I make polite, ensure them that it isn't personal, I am just not capable of trusting anyone else with the safety of my family.

There are no establishments here that keep CCW out by choice, it's all legal, generally because they sell alcohol. Not bars mind you, here, the law says if they sell alcohol, no CCW. That means no convenience stores that sell beer, no Wal- Mart, etc. etc......

Slowly I'm getting the business community involved, and they appear to be supportive. 1 service station owner even comes outside to get his cash, wants my business.

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Old May 11, 2005, 08:11 PM   #24
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"It would be nice if the rocket scientists who came up with these provisios had also required such places to have a "check your gun" system in place, wouldn't it?"

Our tax collector's office is in the courthouse. Since it's a courthouse, no weapons allowed. I have to take all the crap out of my pockets and put it in a little tray to be inspected, maybe run through the xray machine. They always take my car keys and put them in a little numbered paper envelope and give me a ticket to pick it up when I get back.

I have half a mind to play dumb and when the guy says to empty my pockets, I'll lay the revolver in the tray with my keys and change and tell the officer to just put it in the little bag and give me my ticket.

I hate leaving the guns in a vehicle in a courthouse parking lot, 'cause every criminal would have to know- if you carry a gun, it's in there. Usually I'm in a company vehicle. I had a safe in there for a while. They asked what the safe was for, and I was politely informed the company has an antigun policy.
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Old May 22, 2005, 04:59 PM   #25
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I bought a small strong box w/a key lock and had a local metalsmith drill two 2" holes in the back. Through these I padlocked the trailing ends of a a long cable which I wound around the left front seat runners. This lockbox on the left, backseat floorboard is where I store my carry weapon the few times I'm not able to go armed. It's not a perfect setup, but beats the shiznit out of a glovebox.

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