The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Tactics and Training

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old May 3, 2005, 04:32 PM   #26
airhawk27
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 28, 2005
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 5
5.11 Pants

Just a jump in on this subject. 5.11 has a new material for their 5.11 Tactical pants that are Nylon.
I work PT in a store in Orlando and my wife works there fulltime, Pace Outfitters, Altamonte Springs.
The store is a major seller of 5.11 stuff and I have had many pairs of the 5.11 pants in cotton. As you know, they shrink and generally are hot in the warmer climates. Well the Nylon pants do not shrink (duh!) and they are much more comfortable in regards to the heat factor. They are lightweight and they come out of the dryer in great condition, no wrinkles!!!!!
They cost about $10 more per pair, but that last much longer...
Just my opinion.

Vest? Beats a fanny pack any day!!!! Many tourist wear them here to put all of their junk in!!
airhawk27 is offline  
Old May 3, 2005, 05:22 PM   #27
Geoff Timm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 18, 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 472
Where I work as a professional computer geek, 5.11 pants are not uncommon. Cami is not acceptable, but black, khaki, dark solid colors are.

Mine are in Khaki, but I'm a bland, midwestern white guy.

Geoff
Who is so boring it's a weapon!
Geoff Timm is offline  
Old May 4, 2005, 08:55 AM   #28
ATW525
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 14, 2005
Location: Concord, NH
Posts: 2,683
I love 5.11 tactical pants... they look good and the elastic waistband works extremely well with smartcarry. I own a couples pairs and plan on buying more.

I also own a 5.11 vest and wear it from time to time when I carry my Beretta 96 (sometimes I wear an untucked 5.11 shirt for the same purpose). As for the vest screaming gun, I had occassion to go to a sporting event while carrying (this is legal in my state), and security was checking for weapons at the door. They didn't think twice about my vest and just waved me through, despite making several other people lift up thier sweaters and seatshirts to expose thier belt lines.
ATW525 is offline  
Old May 5, 2005, 01:55 PM   #29
USP45usp
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 17, 2000
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 3,428
Heck, the way I look at it is that I wore BDU's for 11 years in my life, I can wear them the rest of my life if I so chose.

And all my BDU's have been field tested (as in, I had so many pairs that when I got out I have enough to last me for awhile (as long as the ol' waistline stays about the same)).

Wayne

*edited to clarify: BDU's only about 9 years, I forgot that when I first came in the uniforms where still the greens.

Last edited by USP45usp; May 5, 2005 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Greens
USP45usp is offline  
Old May 5, 2005, 09:49 PM   #30
BatmanX
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 23, 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 266
Geoff....a Midwest guy? in FLORIDA?!!! What the heckle and jeckle?

I am in MN and I intereviewed in FL (Coral Gables, Tampa, etc.) for geek jobs (see www.geeksquad.com before the Best Buy purchase) but I didn't get a job. So now I am a Finance Manager (ie see "Nerd" and "Bean Counter").

/edit: On a similiar note, does anyone have their other products? I was thinking about the light jacket for casual wear. As it doesn't scream "HAY GUESS WHAT I HAVE" like the vest does.
__________________
NRA Life Member

Current shopping list:
Bersa Thunder 9mm
CZ SP01

Current Ownage:
CZ-P01
Bersa .380 (Duo tone)
Kel Tec P3AT (SG)
Stoeger 2000 (black syn.) 26"
Winchester Model 97 12 gauge FULL
Marlin Firearms Model 60 22LR

Last edited by BatmanX; May 6, 2005 at 11:22 AM.
BatmanX is offline  
Old May 6, 2005, 05:39 AM   #31
jburtonpdx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 22, 2005
Posts: 267
I know I am getting older now that I dont realy care so much about what others think about the way I dress. I wear comfortable and practical clothes. The 5.11 shorts are great - I can hold lots of stuff. I am a ham radio geek, a chl holder, a computer geek, and so on... I got lots of crap to carry around - pockets are good. I will buy a pair of the pants one of these days also for the same reasons...

I bought one of the shirts to give it a try and was not as impressed. It would be functional for somebody that uses it the way intended but does not serve me that well.

Point being - who gives a flying .... what others say or think about what you do for your needs. I prefer comfort and practical application over making others either not notice me or notice me. Just dont care....
jburtonpdx is offline  
Old May 7, 2005, 03:36 AM   #32
IZHUMINTER
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 6, 2005
Location: Darmstadt
Posts: 240
Quote:
I think the Army did the wrong thing, doing away with them. We should have ADDED the BDU, not replaced the fatigue uniform. That way, when we needed battle dress, we could wear it, when we needed a fatigue uniform, we could wear that one!
I just had this discussion at work yesterday when talking about the new Army Combat Uniform. I even went to far as to say that if soldiers have an office job, they should wear *gasp* non-utility uniforms to work! Needless to say this was a highly unpopular position.

As for looking like a mall-ninja just because you're wearing a piece or two of 5.11 gear or some BDU pants...that's just silly. As long as you don't go overboard and look like one of their catalog models you should be fine. Besides, a mall ninja would never be caught dead wearng anything but the latest and greatest in high-speed low-drag TACTICAL gear, especially when it would make him stand out like a sore thumb.
IZHUMINTER is offline  
Old May 8, 2005, 07:19 AM   #33
Geoff Timm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 18, 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 472
BatManX commented, "Geoff....a Midwest guy? in FLORIDA?!!! What the heckle and jeckle?"

What can I say, I signed my life away to get the soft cushy job of Gov't Geek, they pulled my chances of promotion (OK, I go to Orlando once a year and check the pulse of the Hub site Mgr, to see about promotion chances) and transferred me to FL from Cleveland, OH. Literally at the end of the year.

I've been here a year and four months, haven't seen a wild alligator yet, haven't gotten snake bit yet have gotten fatter and had health problems. I'm beginning to suspect FL is a plot to eliminate the elderly.

But, on the other tentacle, there is a decent indoor range in Jax, there is a gun dealer with some WILD sale prices and an eclectic selection, and I'm two hours from a free outdoor range, I'm visiting real soon now as soon as I recover a bit more from cancer surgery.

I like the job, I've got a stock tank in the back yard (don't call it that in front of a realtor, they get huffy) I'm in debt up to my tuchas and I'll have to work until I'm 85 or so. What more could a boring, mid-western white guy ask for?

Geoff
Who notes the only Gov't Geek job to come open in Cleveland when he was looking, had 600 applicants. Long Odds.
Geoff Timm is offline  
Old May 20, 2005, 03:17 PM   #34
ktd
Member
 
Join Date: May 20, 2004
Posts: 33
I just find the things to be comfortable and practical. FWIW my LEO buddies wear it for the same reasons, not to look tacticool. That being said, I try to limit myself to wearing only one "tactical" looking item to keep the snickering down, but then again I can wear shorts and a t shirt and still get taken for an officer or a soldier (must be the 9mm).

My big question is who knows of a bonafide case where someone was shot first while wearing a "shoot me first" vest? I have not heard of one. The closest I have heard is a detective being shot during a bank robbery, supposedly because the perp recognized his second badge wallet (and this was many years ago). If you really care, 5.11 makes a vest that takes panels and plates!

k
ktd is offline  
Old May 20, 2005, 04:08 PM   #35
spacemanspiff
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2002
Location: alaska
Posts: 3,172
Quote:
Other than suffering the ridicule of being a "mall ninja" by TFL members is it appropriate to wear BDU pants and 5.11 vest for a casual stroll through the woods or going to the movies?
pshhawww!! this is obviously a trick question. there is no such thing as a 'casual stroll through the woods or to the movies'... just like asking 'when is a gun not loaded?'

cant believe you all supposed ninjas fell for it! i hereby lower all your ninja-tude by 1 point.

casual stroll???? geez, any fool knows that at any moment hordes of zombies can come spilling out of the woods, or scores or heavily armed terrorists can strike your local theater house.

spacemanmyninja-tudeneedsaboost,thinki'llbuysomethingtacticalthisweekendspiff
__________________
"Every man alone is sincere; at the entrance of a second person hypocrisy begins." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." - Soren Kierkegaard
spacemanspiff is offline  
Old May 20, 2005, 04:25 PM   #36
6shooter
Member
 
Join Date: May 14, 2005
Posts: 49
I have worn bdu's for years, (I live in the country) and there are lots of people around who wear bdu's all the time, but the only 'trouble' I ever had was from a 40 something year old punk who said he didn't like me wearing camo bdu's because he had fought in Veitnam and I didn't earn the right to wear 'em and he started a fight over it right there in the resturant. This happened several years ago.
I still wear my bdu's don't like vests too much though.
6shooter is offline  
Old May 20, 2005, 05:11 PM   #37
Fjolnirsson
Member
 
Join Date: May 17, 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 48
I wear BDU's most of the time. Usually khaki or OD green, but I do have a pair of woodland and one in subdued urban camo. I occasionally get bored with khaki and OD green. BDU's are comfortable, and they're cheap. I sometimes wear them tucked into my boots, as I live in a very wet, rainy area.
I really don't care what people think of the way I look. There are certain people who have opinions I value. The random guy on the steet? I could care less what he/she thinks.
I'm thinking about the 5.11 vest. I can always use more pockets.
__________________
A member since 05-17-2004, and I'm still not a senior member? I need to spend more time here....



"The Federal agent who shot Vicki Weaver in the face, deliberately, while she was unarmed and holding her child is named Lon Horiuchi. Remember that name. He is still walking around loose. That man must eventually pay for his crime, here or hereafter."
-Jeff Cooper


Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum (If you want peace prepare for war)




“We must be the change we wish to see.”-Ghandi
Fjolnirsson is offline  
Old May 20, 2005, 05:31 PM   #38
Marko Kloos
Staff
 
Join Date: January 12, 2000
Location: Enfield, NH
Posts: 5,521
I have two pairs of the khaki 5.11 pants (which I wear a lot), one pair of the shorts (which I wear occasionally), and a khaki vest (which I rarely wear).

I never wear the pants and vest together...looks too much like a boy scout or big game safari outfit...too much khaki.

The 5.11 stuff is great...roomy, lots of pockets, comfortable.
__________________
"The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." --A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher

the munchkin wrangler.
Marko Kloos is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09309 seconds with 9 queries