The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Hunt

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 7, 2005, 08:58 PM   #1
rifle59
Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2004
Posts: 35
black bear cartridge choice

I am planning a black bear hunt in B.C. Thought I might use a .308-I have a compact /Winchester post-64 claw action that would be easy to carry. I have a .300 Win Mag if I need to. Anyway, any thoughts on adequacy of the .308. Thought about a 165 grain Nosler Partition at 2700 fps.
rifle59 is offline  
Old March 7, 2005, 09:51 PM   #2
mete
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 14, 2004
Location: NY State
Posts: 5,328
What sized bear ? The biggest bear in PA top 800 lbs !! The .308 nosler ought to do well on most blacks. If you want a real gun , then get a 45-70 !!.
mete is offline  
Old March 7, 2005, 09:56 PM   #3
2002gti
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 20, 2004
Location: FIND ME
Posts: 1,125
id opt for the .300 if its in your arsenal.
__________________
HEE with the most toys dies happiest
2002gti is offline  
Old March 8, 2005, 11:52 AM   #4
FirstFreedom
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 31, 2004
Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A.
Posts: 12,451
Just me, but I'd want a good 180-190 grainer definitely, from a .308, if the bears get to any good size where you're going.
FirstFreedom is offline  
Old March 8, 2005, 11:58 AM   #5
Mike Irwin
Staff
 
Join Date: April 13, 2000
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 35,865
Some years ago a guy in Pennsylvania took a 500 pound black bear in Potter County. I was a reporter working for the local paper at the time, so I went out to interview him.

IIRC he used a .308 with a 150-gr. soft point bullet.

Many, many black bear have been taken with rounds in the .30-30 power class over the years.

.308 will do just fine.
__________________
"The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza

Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.
Mike Irwin is offline  
Old March 8, 2005, 07:19 PM   #6
Mannlicher
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2001
Location: North Central Florida
Posts: 2,970
the .308 will do the trick, and I don't think you need 'premium' bullets. A good Core-Lokt Remington should do just fine. Bear are not shot at long distances, and are thin skinned.
__________________
Nemo Me Impune Lacesset

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan
Mannlicher is offline  
Old March 12, 2005, 11:42 PM   #7
Young_Buck
Member
 
Join Date: January 27, 2005
Location: Nanaimo B.C. Canada
Posts: 53
I was just wondering were'bouts in bc are you planing on goin i live on vancouver island myself and i am planning on my first hunting trip this spring with my shooting coach to go after black bear and i'll probably be goin with my 30-30 as it is my only rifle right now but i might end up goin with a mosin if i can get the money together to buy it. anyways i would appreciate it if you would kep me informed on how you do and where you harvest you bear thnaks
Young_Buck is offline  
Old March 13, 2005, 08:23 PM   #8
mdhunter
Member
 
Join Date: February 4, 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 65
Go With the .300

Rifle59,

If you have a .300, take it and bring premium 180-200 grain bullets. Although the .308 and other calibers have been used to kill bears, they're not what most would consider an optimal cartridge.

If you're going on a guided hunt, your guide's gonna be a lot happier seeing you bring a .300 than a .308. BC is pretty tough country and is quite thick in some areas I believe - you may not get an "optimal" broadside shot at your bear, you may be forced to take a less ideal shot, and you may only GET one shot - that's where the higher power and premium bullet with the .300 will show its mettle. I'd consider using Barnes X, Swift A Frame Safari Grade, or Trophy Bonded Bear Claw.

Good luck, and good hunting!

Michael
mdhunter is offline  
Old March 13, 2005, 09:45 PM   #9
Jseime
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 31, 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,775
I see this differently

you see this as a dilemma--- which rifle do you use and is the .308 a good enough round.

i see a golden opportunity to visit your local gun shop. what you need my friend is a lever action marlin in .45-70
Jseime is offline  
Old March 14, 2005, 08:56 AM   #10
Rojoe67
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 7, 2005
Location: Wolverine State
Posts: 767
270 Bolt.......

A very good friend of mine up north lives by his bolt 270. He has hunted Black Bear in Michigan and Canada for over 30 years now. He swears that the 270 he used 90% of his bears taken has been his best rifle. He is over 15 bears taken now in that time frame. He says a number of reasons attribute his pick to a 270 bolt. Velocity, energy, flat shooting, many choices of manufactures of ammunition and so on. He feels so sure of this rifle he said it is his pick for any North American animals. He did state he wouldn't tangle with any other bears larger than the Blackie though.
Rojoe67 is offline  
Old March 15, 2005, 01:38 PM   #11
FirstFreedom
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 31, 2004
Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A.
Posts: 12,451
If it wasn't clear from my original post, what I was getting at is yes, .308 should be plenty o' medicine, but for big'uns, I'd go 180 or heavier - that's just me (and I've never hunted bear, so that's theoretical too).
FirstFreedom is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08824 seconds with 9 queries