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Old January 21, 2005, 11:48 AM   #1
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New Brass...hanging on the powder funnel

I have a Dillon 650 and this past week I have been reloading 44 Magnum ammo with new Remington brass with RCBS carbide dies. I have noted that when I used this new brass I got a progressively tighter/tougher pull removing the case from the funnel until it gets down-right tough to cycle the handle. This is not a die problem as I can see the case(s) are past the die(s) and the only “hang-up” is the funnel at station two…it’s still fully inserted in the case.

This was a surprise for me (I'm new to reloading). I expected that new brass would "fly" through the press with little or no sizing or belling issues.

I was wrong. I found that the sizing die (station one) actually worked the new brass over a bit and at the powder/belling die (station two) as I mentioned above, the funnel had to be polished after about 300 new cases were loaded to remove the brass streaks forming on the outside of the funnel.

Actually it was the streaks inside the new cases which caught my eye. Once I got looking around, I noted that those streaks matched the streaks on the outside surface of the funnel.

Dillon suggested polishing the outside of the funnel from time-to-time to eliminate the build-up.

Two questions:

1) Is this a common "problem"?
2) What material would be good for polishing the funnel? I was thinking steel wool?

Thanks...have a great weekend.

Bob
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Old January 21, 2005, 03:24 PM   #2
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Did you chamfer the inside of the case mouths?

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Old January 21, 2005, 03:33 PM   #3
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Nope, sure didn't. I had not trimmed it and did not think
I needed to...maybe I should have!
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Old January 21, 2005, 04:19 PM   #4
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I've noticed the same thing. I don't know what causes this problem as I haven't bothered trying to diagnose it, but now that you mention it... I think it only happened with new cases.
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Old January 21, 2005, 09:13 PM   #5
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It only happens on new cases and what worked for me was a borillo pad. New brass has something on the case I was told and it builds up after a few rounds. Once fired no more problems. One other thing I noticed, with me anyway, it only does it with winchester brass, the remington seems to work fine new.
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Old January 21, 2005, 11:26 PM   #6
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Yep, new cases seem to be the common thread.
Mr. Boren, actually, my brass is Remington...go figure?
Reloading has a curve-ball around every caliber...but
it's sure a great hobby!

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Old January 22, 2005, 02:43 AM   #7
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Bob, try a little One Shot on the expander stem and a little on the brass, takes the 'new brass blues' away.
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Old January 22, 2005, 07:10 AM   #8
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Thanks Mr. Smith,
I appreciate the suggestion.

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Old January 22, 2005, 07:17 AM   #9
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ooh, sticky

I stand up my cases in MTM load blocks and give them a gentle shot of Hornady One-Shot spray lube, trying to get a wee bit into the mouths, too.
Makes running my XL650 sweet..........

No, I don't 'clean up' afterward
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Old January 22, 2005, 11:21 AM   #10
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I had the same problem with new WW .357 brass cases. After the first reload, the problem disappeared,

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Old January 22, 2005, 11:30 AM   #11
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I suppose I skirted that problem by never having used virgin brass. Maybe being poor does have its advantages!

All my new brass is once fired brass.
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Old January 22, 2005, 01:16 PM   #12
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WESHOOT2,
I'm going to pick some up next time I'm out...thanks for the suggestion.
JCM298,
It's good to know the issue goes away...I was not thinking it would be fun pulling that handle down with that much force from now on!
Edward429451,
It's a new one for me too...I'd never used anything but range brass before.
Hard to find 45 Colt or 44 Mag brass...but I have scadz of .45 ACP, .38, 357, & 9mm!!

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Old January 22, 2005, 03:04 PM   #13
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The only reason for buying new brass is I can't convince the kids to pick up the brass after they're done . They say it takes the fun out of shooting.
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Old January 22, 2005, 03:35 PM   #14
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Mr. Boren,
That's one reason I really like revolvers! I got tired of picking up the brass. But of course I do shoot several .45 ACP semi-autos...that's when I get the tarp out.

That said being said, buying brass once in a while would be a tradeoff I'd make too if it meant I was going to keep my family shooting with me! Good choice.

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Old January 23, 2005, 05:22 PM   #15
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One Shot is like the WD40 of the reloading world. I spray my brass even when Im using carbide dies. Its really an extra 10 seconds, and it does make life alot easier.
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