(repeat question?) Defensive shotgun training in Minneapolis/St.Paul

Oleg Volk · August 4, 2000, 02:57 PM

I would like to get a 12ga pump...however, I have not enough skill to even mount it right and so end up bruised. Time to get some very basic training. Where?

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Oleg "peacemonger" Volk

http://dd-b.net/RKBA

jthuang · August 4, 2000, 04:37 PM

Oleg,
http://www.plusp.com/shotgun.html

I will caution you -- the instructor has gotten flak on rec.guns and (I think) the COMTAC tactics list. I know that instructors will disagree about the best way of doing things, but this one seems to make some pretty weird statements (see some of his articles on the web site -- like saying a hit from an AK47 has a x% chance of killing you).

But you asked....

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

Oleg Volk · August 4, 2000, 04:43 PM

I have taken plusp's training. He is well-regarded by some people and hated by others. I would like to check several options before making up my mind.

Erick Gelhaus · August 4, 2000, 09:42 PM

Oleg-
Take a look at the schedules for Louis Awerbuck (I know he's going to be in Indiana later this month), Bill Jeans and Randy Cain. Both travel extensively teaching.

Bill's site is www.morrigan-consulting.com
Randy's is www.guntactics.com
I can get you Mr. Awerbuck's number should you be interested - He's not enamored with the idea of the 'Net.

B Shipley · August 4, 2000, 11:11 PM

This may be OT, but what a stupid backwards attitude Mr. Awerbuck has.

The net is the best tool gun owners have to find useful information, keep abreast of unfortunate legislative attacks, and organize.

The dinosaurs usually die out without leaving a lasting legacy. Does Mr. Awerbuck think that as many people would be taking his classes if they hadn't heard about them on the net first?

End of rant.

gunmart · August 6, 2000, 06:29 PM

here is louis awerbucks info and some others you may wish to ck out.

Here is my list of recommended shooting schools that I have personally attended. (I can not vouch for the ones I have not been too.) www.prifirearmstraining.com (personal responsibility) www.guntactics.com (randy Cain) www.gunsite.com (Jeff cooper)
Yaviapi (Louis awerbuck) (520) 772-8262)
Jim Cirillo "master gunfighter" 1812 S. Highway Suite 115-223 Lynn Haven FL,32444-5423 http://www.TacticalTrainer.com (tactical response) www.gabesuarez.com.com ( gabe saurez)

[Edited by gunmart on 02-26-2001 at 12:16 PM]

sigmund · August 8, 2000, 01:35 AM

Oleg:
Check out http://www.defensive-edge.net
It's in Anoka, and offers shotgun training.

I just came across the site, and have not heard any discussion from others about it. I sent them an e-mail with questions about their training. I got a reply the same day, and it was a personal response that gave me enough confidence to sign up for a course.

The web site does not list prices. A one day course is $110. I'm going to see if I can take the handgun course on Aug. 21, and will share my experiences.

August 4, 2000, 02:57 PM	#1
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,025	I would like to get a 12ga pump...however, I have not enough skill to even mount it right and so end up bruised. Time to get some very basic training. Where? ------------------ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk http://dd-b.net/RKBA

August 4, 2000, 04:37 PM	#2
jthuang Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 828	Oleg, http://www.plusp.com/shotgun.html I will caution you -- the instructor has gotten flak on rec.guns and (I think) the COMTAC tactics list. I know that instructors will disagree about the best way of doing things, but this one seems to make some pretty weird statements (see some of his articles on the web site -- like saying a hit from an AK47 has a x% chance of killing you). But you asked.... Justin ------------------ Justin T. Huang, Esq. late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

August 4, 2000, 04:43 PM	#3
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,025	I have taken plusp's training. He is well-regarded by some people and hated by others. I would like to check several options before making up my mind.

August 4, 2000, 09:42 PM	#4
Erick Gelhaus Staff Emeritus Join Date: October 28, 1998 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,750	Oleg- Take a look at the schedules for Louis Awerbuck (I know he's going to be in Indiana later this month), Bill Jeans and Randy Cain. Both travel extensively teaching. Bill's site is www.morrigan-consulting.com Randy's is www.guntactics.com I can get you Mr. Awerbuck's number should you be interested - He's not enamored with the idea of the 'Net.

August 4, 2000, 11:11 PM	#5
B Shipley Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 1998 Posts: 719	This may be OT, but what a stupid backwards attitude Mr. Awerbuck has. The net is the best tool gun owners have to find useful information, keep abreast of unfortunate legislative attacks, and organize. The dinosaurs usually die out without leaving a lasting legacy. Does Mr. Awerbuck think that as many people would be taking his classes if they hadn't heard about them on the net first? End of rant.

August 6, 2000, 06:29 PM	#6
gunmart Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2000 Posts: 552	here is louis awerbucks info and some others you may wish to ck out. Here is my list of recommended shooting schools that I have personally attended. (I can not vouch for the ones I have not been too.) www.prifirearmstraining.com (personal responsibility) www.guntactics.com (randy Cain) www.gunsite.com (Jeff cooper) Yaviapi (Louis awerbuck) (520) 772-8262) Jim Cirillo "master gunfighter" 1812 S. Highway Suite 115-223 Lynn Haven FL,32444-5423 http://www.TacticalTrainer.com (tactical response) www.gabesuarez.com.com ( gabe saurez) [Edited by gunmart on 02-26-2001 at 12:16 PM]

August 8, 2000, 01:35 AM	#7
sigmund Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2000 Location: Urbandale, Iowa Posts: 346	Oleg: Check out http://www.defensive-edge.net It's in Anoka, and offers shotgun training. I just came across the site, and have not heard any discussion from others about it. I sent them an e-mail with questions about their training. I got a reply the same day, and it was a personal response that gave me enough confidence to sign up for a course. The web site does not list prices. A one day course is $110. I'm going to see if I can take the handgun course on Aug. 21, and will share my experiences.