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Old May 5, 2002, 09:14 PM   #51
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Ok, so there WAS a .45 Short colt...I stand corrected! However, can anyone prove that the .45 Colt was ever called "Long" by anyone other than non-Coltists?

Mike, I'm glad you saw the humor in that.
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Old May 6, 2002, 04:52 PM   #52
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Hi, Steve:
Somewhere in my collection of gun magazines is a picture of a box of .45 Long Colt cartridges, labeled as such, from Colt Firearms.

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Old May 7, 2002, 01:47 PM   #53
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Re: 9x19 parabellum ctg.

Mal & Mike- - -
I stand corrected. Comes of talking off the top of my head without consulting references, I guess.

Now - - - -

Who all wants to enter into a discussion of the even-lesser-known .45 Medium Colt ctg????

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Old May 9, 2002, 11:59 AM   #54
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".45 Medium Colt..."

Geez. You people.

Everyone knows that the PROPER name is actually the .45 Almost Long Colt.

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Old May 10, 2002, 12:03 AM   #55
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9mm para is prepare for war. .45 Colt is a caliber seperate from other English calibers,no short Colt.army cartrtidge.
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Old May 10, 2002, 12:12 AM   #56
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Want to try again, Zot?

Sorry, but I have NO clue what you were trying to say.
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Old May 10, 2002, 09:07 AM   #57
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No, Mike, I going to call the kettle black on this one..you're WRONG.

Everyone knows its the .45 Almost-as-long-as-the-Long-but-longer-than-the-Short Colt.

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Old May 10, 2002, 09:38 AM   #58
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Zot - sounds like you've been drinking the Colt .45 and not shooting it.
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Old May 10, 2002, 10:41 AM   #59
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how about **** you all
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Old May 10, 2002, 04:33 PM   #60
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Okay--That is ENTIRELY - - -

ENOUGH, ALREADY!!!

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Old May 10, 2002, 07:01 PM   #61
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zot, I apologize.

What was intended to be a good natured jibe seemingly did not come out that way. I'm sure things would have come across better in person.
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Old May 13, 2002, 12:42 PM   #62
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The 45 short colt in the picture was originally designated the 44 colt, or 44 rimfire. Jobber literature differentiated the two using short and long.

It was designed for Sam's 1872 model.
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Old May 14, 2002, 02:06 AM   #63
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gotta luv the irony of some that get all wound up about the .45LC, then refer to the .44 Rem. Mag. as the .44Mag
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Old May 14, 2002, 04:10 PM   #64
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.45 Medium Colt was developed by Argentinian wildcatter by the name of Jorje Cabesanada circa 1903. Being a typical wildcatter he was always finding new ways to spend a buck when a pence would do. Or Peso for Centavo in his case.

He found that the necks of his .45 Colt cases were splitting after many many reloads and simply tirmmed them. Not satisfied with the accuracy thusly obtained, he commissioned from Colt some cylinders with 1/8" shorter chambers and trimmed his cases to exact length.

He first tried to market the idea under the name .45 Especial but sold none.

He then changed the name to .45 Colt Media (medium) and that didn't sell too.

His next dive into enterpanourship was his single grove rifling for snub barreled revolvers.

Jorje was found strangled in his bed. His wife and all fourteen children confessed to the deed. They were tried and found justified.

So there.....the short history of the .45 Medium Colt.

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Old May 15, 2002, 11:00 AM   #65
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C.R.Sam, re: Jorje Cabesanada - - -

- - -and the .45 Colt Media.

ROTFLMBO

That one should be archived as a classic of apocryphal cartridge history!

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