Long range platform you may appreciate

ShooterReviews · January 14, 2011, 02:58 AM

We just did a review on the XLR Industries Evolution rifle stock (Extreme Long Range). We were very impressed with this system.

XLR stock on our Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308

XLR stock on Savage 10FP LE .308

Full review at http://shooterreviews.com/xlr-indust...chasis-system/

Jim243 · January 14, 2011, 03:09 AM

Very sexy, I love those scopes, but they cost more than the rifles.

Jim

ShooterReviews · January 14, 2011, 04:07 AM

The Loupold Mark IV is pricey (about $1200) but the SFWA SS on the green rifle is a great scope for $299-$399. We've accomplished groups of .247" at 100 yards and killed one gallon jugs from 950 yards with it.

Here's where you can find them: http://swfa-ss.com/
Some people call a piece of junk but I've never actually found a bad review on it. Everyone says it's equal to any scope four times the price!

Wildalaska · January 14, 2011, 04:25 AM

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Everyone says it's equal to any scope four times the price!

No everyone doesnt

WildiforoneAlaska ™©2002-2010

Scorch · January 14, 2011, 04:35 AM

Ooooooh! It's a non-AR! And with a non-Leupold scope, too!

I can hardly wait for all the competitive shooters to be shooting those at the next F Class match. If nothing else, it will lighten the mood significantly.

ZeSpectre · January 14, 2011, 08:07 AM

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and killed one gallon jugs from 950 yards with it

I've manage to impress some folks with some distance pistol shooting here and there (100 yards when I'm having a -very- good day) but I don't think I'm ever going to manage a shot past about 200 yards. Color me impressed.

shooter_john · January 14, 2011, 10:35 AM

Those are incredibly good looking stocks. And then I must humor myself... What is the street price looking to be?

Ideal Tool · January 14, 2011, 09:09 PM

This is my idea of a long-range platform: [url]www.nramuseum.com..sharps-sharpsborchardtmodel1878mid-range.aspex

bottom rung · January 14, 2011, 10:40 PM

Great pictures!

The stocks are ugly, yet tactical, which really makes them awesome.

I also wonder about the price.

Personally, I would go for one of these because there is no fitting and no sending the rifle out to be fit. I could do it myself.

Wag · January 14, 2011, 10:48 PM

Ooooh, evil gun pics!

Right Click.
Save Picture As...

Drool.

--Wag--

madcratebuilder · January 15, 2011, 09:36 AM

Nice looking rifle but .308???????

Visaman · January 15, 2011, 10:57 AM

i prefer 7mm-08, low recoil, good ballistics.

The 7mm-08 is a necked down .308 so i think that the mags should handle 7mm-08.

shanzlik · January 15, 2011, 11:42 AM

Why not .308? Extremely common caliber, well known ballistics so lots of easy to find info out there for the shooter, lots of good factory match ammo if you don't reload, etc. It makes sense to offer your product to the most commonly used caliber for long range shooting. I don't think this is necessarily being targeted to the custom bench rest crowd. Also keep in mind the reviewers said they are/were military and police snipers and you can see why they were using .308.

Looks like they offer it in .300wm, .338lapua, and .223. Pretty much because they're using accuracy international mags, I imagine.

Nice review and interesting chassis, OP. The only thing I think I wouldn't like is the funky stock. I'm sure it works well and has lots of adjustability, but it looks like it could get in the way or snag if you're moving around. I guess folding would help.

Brian Pfleuger · January 15, 2011, 12:13 PM

I'm a fan of good quality, inexpensive scope and regularly take issue with the "your scope should cost as much as your rifle" crowd....

but claiming that a scope that costs $299-$399 is as good as a scope that costs $1200-$1600, well, that's insanity.

tulsamal · January 15, 2011, 12:30 PM

http://xlrindustries.com/Pricing.html

Wildalaska · January 15, 2011, 02:09 PM

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I'm a fan of good quality, inexpensive scope and regularly take issue with the "your scope should cost as much as your rifle" crowd....

Me too. Your scope should cost MORE than your rifle

FrankenMauser · January 15, 2011, 03:23 PM

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Me too. Your scope should cost MORE than your rifle

General rule of scope buying:
If (Scope cost) < (Rifle cost)
The rifle will be unjustifiably blamed for problems that are not its fault.

If (Scope cost) > (Rifle cost)
Make sure the rifle is worthy of the scope.

Ervin · January 15, 2011, 04:13 PM

wow all those bells and whistles and your rifles dont even have bayonet lugs

she has no fancy rails or any of them pricey glasses you folks attach to yours.. but she can still kill the hun at 800yds

CPTMurdoc30 · January 15, 2011, 04:34 PM

WOW how the heck did a thread about a STOCK turn into "You can't shoot unless you have a billion dollar scope" thread?

I think some people need to pull their head out of their 5th point of contact.

I'll take my $500 rifle and my $500 scope and put them against your $500 rifles and $1200 scopes any day of the week. Oh I'll put my cheap worthless AR with its $500 Nikon up against your $1200 scopes as well.

Scope snobes are STUPID.

As for the stock. I think it looks bad. But if you like it go for it. I would never be caught dead with that thing on any of my rifles.

Brian Pfleuger · January 15, 2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CPTMurdoc30

WOW how the heck did a thread about a STOCK turn into "You can't shoot unless you have a billion dollar scope" thread?

It's not a thread diversion when a claim comes from the thread creator.

Did you miss the part where the OP stated that his $299 scope is every bit as good as a scope that cost 4 times as much money?

You don't have to be a scope snob to argue that point. I am the very antithesis of a scope snob and I find that argument ridiculous.

I'm all for budget scopes. There's NO WAY any $299 scope is as good as a $1200 scope. As good as a $600 scope, maybe. $1200? No way.

CPTMurdoc30 · January 15, 2011, 08:45 PM

BUT The NAVY SEALS use SWFA SS scopes. They got a contract you didn't know that?

I didn't miss that comment.

I just took it as a small plug.

Wildalaska · January 15, 2011, 08:56 PM

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Scope snobes are STUPID.

I like being stupid

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I'll take my $500 rifle and my $500 scope and put them against your $500 rifles and $1200 scopes any day of the week. Oh I'll put my cheap worthless AR with its $500 Nikon up against your $1200 scopes as well.

Dang I wish I was down in the lower 48

...wait I got an idea, I have a friend who can help me take you up on that offer.....my Blaser 6.5x55 with Hensoldt vs your rifle. I would just have to ship it to him down at the AMU

Shall we say 1000 yards?

I think he has a head shot in Iraq at that distance

riverwalker76 · January 15, 2011, 09:05 PM

I know this is a silly question, but it is due to the line of work I'm in ...

What camera are you using for shots?

madcratebuilder · January 16, 2011, 10:22 AM

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Scope snobes are STUPID.

I used to think that to a certain degree. That is until I got some trigger time behind a NightForce. Believe me, there is a difference, a big difference. I'm not going to trash all my 300-500 dollar scopes but I am saving for a NightForce or similar quality for my 24" Grendel.

Abndoc · January 16, 2011, 11:56 AM

The stock is not handsome, but functionality has a beauty of its own.

I like my $300 Super Snipers,though I hate the name, and I own two of them. However, I am saving up for a real quality piece of glass. I think that I should have at least one, and since this is America, I can have both. Time and patience will get me there.

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.....my Blaser 6.5x55 with Hensoldt vs your rifle

Hey WA, does this mean you will sell me a Blaser for $500 bucks?

January 14, 2011, 02:58 AM	#1
ShooterReviews Junior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 2	Long range platform you may appreciate We just did a review on the XLR Industries Evolution rifle stock (Extreme Long Range). We were very impressed with this system. XLR stock on our Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 XLR stock on Savage 10FP LE .308 Full review at http://shooterreviews.com/xlr-indust...chasis-system/

January 14, 2011, 04:07 AM	#3
ShooterReviews Junior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 2	Scope prices The Loupold Mark IV is pricey (about $1200) but the SFWA SS on the green rifle is a great scope for $299-$399. We've accomplished groups of .247" at 100 yards and killed one gallon jugs from 950 yards with it. Here's where you can find them: http://swfa-ss.com/ Some people call a piece of junk but I've never actually found a bad review on it. Everyone says it's equal to any scope four times the price!

January 14, 2011, 04:35 AM	#5
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,249	Ooooooh! It's a non-AR! And with a non-Leupold scope, too! I can hardly wait for all the competitive shooters to be shooting those at the next F Class match. If nothing else, it will lighten the mood significantly. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

January 14, 2011, 10:48 PM	#10
Wag Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 1,010	Ooooh, evil gun pics! Right Click. Save Picture As... Drool. --Wag-- __________________ "Great genius will always encounter fierce opposition from mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein.

January 15, 2011, 11:42 AM	#13
shanzlik Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 547	Why not .308? Extremely common caliber, well known ballistics so lots of easy to find info out there for the shooter, lots of good factory match ammo if you don't reload, etc. It makes sense to offer your product to the most commonly used caliber for long range shooting. I don't think this is necessarily being targeted to the custom bench rest crowd. Also keep in mind the reviewers said they are/were military and police snipers and you can see why they were using .308. Looks like they offer it in .300wm, .338lapua, and .223. Pretty much because they're using accuracy international mags, I imagine. Nice review and interesting chassis, OP. The only thing I think I wouldn't like is the funky stock. I'm sure it works well and has lots of adjustability, but it looks like it could get in the way or snag if you're moving around. I guess folding would help. __________________ TSRA Life Member, NRA Endowment Life Member, SAF Life Member My EDC - STI Shadow My blog - firearm reviews, etc. Last edited by shanzlik; January 15, 2011 at 11:59 AM.

January 14, 2011, 03:09 AM	#2
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	Very sexy, I love those scopes, but they cost more than the rifles. Jim

January 14, 2011, 10:35 AM	#7
shooter_john Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2002 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 1,472	Those are incredibly good looking stocks. And then I must humor myself... What is the street price looking to be?

January 14, 2011, 09:09 PM	#8
Ideal Tool Junior member Join Date: October 6, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,080	This is my idea of a long-range platform: [url]www.nramuseum.com..sharps-sharpsborchardtmodel1878mid-range.aspex

January 14, 2011, 10:40 PM	#9
bottom rung Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2007 Location: CT Posts: 494	Great pictures! The stocks are ugly, yet tactical, which really makes them awesome. I also wonder about the price. Personally, I would go for one of these because there is no fitting and no sending the rifle out to be fit. I could do it myself.

January 15, 2011, 09:36 AM	#11
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	Nice looking rifle but .308???????

January 15, 2011, 10:57 AM	#12
Visaman Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 302	i prefer 7mm-08, low recoil, good ballistics. The 7mm-08 is a necked down .308 so i think that the mags should handle 7mm-08.

January 15, 2011, 12:13 PM	#14
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,694	I'm a fan of good quality, inexpensive scope and regularly take issue with the "your scope should cost as much as your rifle" crowd.... but claiming that a scope that costs $299-$399 is as good as a scope that costs $1200-$1600, well, that's insanity. __________________ https://ecommercearms.com I am the owner/operator! Ask me for custom prices! No sales tax outside CO!

January 15, 2011, 12:30 PM	#15
tulsamal Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2004 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 2,552	http://xlrindustries.com/Pricing.html

January 15, 2011, 04:13 PM	#18
Ervin Junior member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Posts: 125	wow all those bells and whistles and your rifles dont even have bayonet lugs she has no fancy rails or any of them pricey glasses you folks attach to yours.. but she can still kill the hun at 800yds

January 15, 2011, 04:34 PM	#19
CPTMurdoc30 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Location: Stafford VA Posts: 969	WOW how the heck did a thread about a STOCK turn into "You can't shoot unless you have a billion dollar scope" thread? I think some people need to pull their head out of their 5th point of contact. I'll take my $500 rifle and my $500 scope and put them against your $500 rifles and $1200 scopes any day of the week. Oh I'll put my cheap worthless AR with its $500 Nikon up against your $1200 scopes as well. Scope snobes are STUPID. As for the stock. I think it looks bad. But if you like it go for it. I would never be caught dead with that thing on any of my rifles.

January 15, 2011, 08:45 PM	#21
CPTMurdoc30 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Location: Stafford VA Posts: 969	BUT The NAVY SEALS use SWFA SS scopes. They got a contract you didn't know that? I didn't miss that comment. I just took it as a small plug.

January 15, 2011, 09:05 PM	#23
riverwalker76 Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 993	I know this is a silly question, but it is due to the line of work I'm in ... What camera are you using for shots?