What can your handgun do against a tank (pic)

Oleg Volk · April 17, 2002, 02:40 PM

Hi-res

We can point people to the article on the topic (i.e. that handguns are useful)...or we can turn it around and explain that handguns are for _personal_ protection, while serious military weapons are for tyranny response.

Need opinion on alternative phrasing: "People with mere handguns can't stop tyranny. That's why the 2nd Amendment includes military weapons." More to the point?

Bonus Image: The right to keep and bear arms is universal.

Hi-res

Tamara · April 17, 2002, 02:58 PM

Cool pic!

I have to remember to get you that pepperbox so you can take some pics of it...

Christopher II · April 17, 2002, 03:09 PM

Oleg, I've gotta say, the toad is a classic! What happened, did you find him (?) at the range?

- Chris

Long Path · April 17, 2002, 03:10 PM

Amphibious assault, anyone?

What's with the frog, Oleg? ;

Oleg Volk · April 17, 2002, 03:11 PM

runt_of_the_litter found him while we were out shooting. We couldn't get any ear muffs or safety goggles to fit him , though.

Stetson_CO · April 17, 2002, 03:25 PM

When I saw the title of the thread, the first image in my head was of a field of people with pistols in their hands......

c):{

Tamara · April 17, 2002, 03:49 PM

It's not the tank that a pistol can hurt; it's the soft, crunchy filling.

mcneill · April 17, 2002, 04:08 PM

Great photo, Oleg. I like the text the way it is.

Jim

ctdonath · April 17, 2002, 04:31 PM

"They have to get out to pee at some point."

C.R.Sam · April 17, 2002, 04:39 PM

Beautiful toad. Looks much brighter than most of our politicians.

Poster right on too.

Sam

Mark D · April 17, 2002, 04:53 PM

Something tickles my brain about a Swedish penchant for taking out tanks with sniper fire: First, one shoots any of the exposed crew. Then you go after the optics and viewing blocks. Admittedly, the tank is not "destroyed", but it has been rendered combat ineffective.

Rickmeister · April 17, 2002, 05:02 PM

Reminds me of Dan Rather's "down-home" witticism:

"If a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun."

Porter-Glockwell · April 17, 2002, 05:10 PM

Caption for the second image: "Toads have developed poisonous skin as a defense, humans must find other means."

or

"Myth's Debunked: Toads don't cause warts. Guns don't cause crime."

Porter

gburner · April 17, 2002, 05:13 PM

a 'still' photo from 'Private Ryan' comes to mind, where the character that Tom Hanks plays, mortally wounded, takes on the Nazi tank with his .45 before meeting his Maker.

Oleg Volk · April 17, 2002, 05:15 PM

Porter -- great one!

dZ · April 17, 2002, 05:16 PM

toads rule!
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/st...?storeid=toady

Porter-Glockwell · April 17, 2002, 05:30 PM

You've heard of the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs? Let me tell you 'bout the toad that laid the magic bullets!

Porter

**4V50 Gary** · April 17, 2002, 05:47 PM

Shouldn't that be, "Don't piss me off!"

UltimaThule · April 17, 2002, 05:51 PM

Movies? "Kelly's heroes" comes to mind, where the character played by Donald Sutherland (?) loosened his P08 in the holster before walking up to a German tank...

Spectre · April 17, 2002, 07:17 PM

Well, drat. Here I was, expecting a review of the .224 BOZ, and instead find Oleg's usual fine art.
------
"It could not be worse," Passini said respectfully. "There is nothing worse than war."
"Defeat is worse."-A Farewell to Arms

Destructo6 · April 17, 2002, 08:41 PM

So, that frog isn't going to be boiled slowly then?

I like it the way it is.

Marko Kloos · April 17, 2002, 08:47 PM

Tamara has it right....a handgun can be useful against a tank. The tank commander has to stop and come out of the hatch sometime...to get gas, to go answer the call of nature, to go grocery shopping.

Kaylee · April 17, 2002, 08:58 PM

ya know.. as much as I keep hearing about "they gots to get out to pee sometime".. I gotta wonder -- don't they at least got some kinda baggie in there, for just that reason? I'd not care to pop the hatch if I thought I'd get shot at for my trouble.. and I'm presuming all the tank crews even these days have the necessary...ah..... equipment to make it less of a bother to improvise in cramped confines.

Any tanker jocks here?

-K

Marko Kloos · April 17, 2002, 09:14 PM

I'm not a tanker jock, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I understand that one of the more popular features about the M-60 MBT was the bottom escape hatch, which was often used as a field expedient latrine. The M1 Abrams has no such hatch, and you have to leave the tank to go potty. I'm not sure about the whole bag idea, though.

Ewok_Guy · April 17, 2002, 09:19 PM

I'd rather poop in a sack than get a bullet in my face.

April 17, 2002, 02:40 PM	#1
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	What can your handgun do against a tank (pic) Hi-res We can point people to the article on the topic (i.e. that handguns are useful)...or we can turn it around and explain that handguns are for _personal_ protection, while serious military weapons are for tyranny response. Need opinion on alternative phrasing: "People with mere handguns can't stop tyranny. That's why the 2nd Amendment includes military weapons." More to the point? Bonus Image: The right to keep and bear arms is universal. Hi-res __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

April 17, 2002, 02:58 PM	#2
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Cool pic! I have to remember to get you that pepperbox so you can take some pics of it... __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

April 17, 2002, 03:10 PM	#4
Long Path Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: N. Texas Posts: 5,899	Amphibious assault, anyone? What's with the frog, Oleg? ; __________________ "Welcome to The Firing Line, a virtual community dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership."T.F.L. Policy Page Will you, too, be one who stands in the gap? ____________

April 17, 2002, 03:11 PM	#5
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	runt_of_the_litter found him while we were out shooting. We couldn't get any ear muffs or safety goggles to fit him , though. __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

April 17, 2002, 03:25 PM	#6
Stetson_CO Member Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 82	I have an idea When I saw the title of the thread, the first image in my head was of a field of people with pistols in their hands...... c):{

April 17, 2002, 03:09 PM	#3
Christopher II Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 1999 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,349	Oleg, I've gotta say, the toad is a classic! What happened, did you find him (?) at the range? - Chris

April 17, 2002, 03:49 PM	#7
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Heh. It's not the tank that a pistol can hurt; it's the soft, crunchy filling. __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

April 17, 2002, 04:08 PM	#8
mcneill Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2000 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 288	Great photo, Oleg. I like the text the way it is. Jim

April 17, 2002, 04:31 PM	#9
ctdonath Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 1999 Posts: 1,904	"They have to get out to pee at some point."

April 17, 2002, 04:39 PM	#10
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Beautiful toad. Looks much brighter than most of our politicians. Poster right on too. Sam

April 17, 2002, 04:53 PM	#11
Mark D Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2000 Posts: 383	Something tickles my brain about a Swedish penchant for taking out tanks with sniper fire: First, one shoots any of the exposed crew. Then you go after the optics and viewing blocks. Admittedly, the tank is not "destroyed", but it has been rendered combat ineffective.

April 17, 2002, 05:02 PM	#12
Rickmeister Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 797	Reminds me of Dan Rather's "down-home" witticism: "If a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun."

April 17, 2002, 05:10 PM	#13
Porter-Glockwell Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2000 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 231	Caption for the second image: "Toads have developed poisonous skin as a defense, humans must find other means." or "Myth's Debunked: Toads don't cause warts. Guns don't cause crime." Porter

April 17, 2002, 05:13 PM	#14
gburner Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2001 Location: at the intersection of naivete and cynicism Posts: 1,365	a 'still' photo from 'Private Ryan' comes to mind, where the character that Tom Hanks plays, mortally wounded, takes on the Nazi tank with his .45 before meeting his Maker.

April 17, 2002, 05:15 PM	#15
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	Porter -- great one!

April 17, 2002, 05:16 PM	#16
dZ Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	toads rule! http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/st...?storeid=toady

April 17, 2002, 05:30 PM	#17
Porter-Glockwell Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2000 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 231	You've heard of the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs? Let me tell you 'bout the toad that laid the magic bullets! Porter

April 17, 2002, 05:47 PM	#18
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,315	Shouldn't that be, "Don't piss me off!" __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 17, 2002, 05:51 PM	#19
UltimaThule Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 458	Movies? "Kelly's heroes" comes to mind, where the character played by Donald Sutherland (?) loosened his P08 in the holster before walking up to a German tank...

April 17, 2002, 07:17 PM	#20
Spectre Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 23, 1998 Location: ATL Posts: 3,277	Well, drat. Here I was, expecting a review of the .224 BOZ, and instead find Oleg's usual fine art. ------ "It could not be worse," Passini said respectfully. "There is nothing worse than war." "Defeat is worse."-A Farewell to Arms

April 17, 2002, 08:41 PM	#21
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,016	So, that frog isn't going to be boiled slowly then? I like it the way it is.

April 17, 2002, 08:47 PM	#22
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	Tamara has it right....a handgun can be useful against a tank. The tank commander has to stop and come out of the hatch sometime...to get gas, to go answer the call of nature, to go grocery shopping.

April 17, 2002, 08:58 PM	#23
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,677	ya know.. as much as I keep hearing about "they gots to get out to pee sometime".. I gotta wonder -- don't they at least got some kinda baggie in there, for just that reason? I'd not care to pop the hatch if I thought I'd get shot at for my trouble.. and I'm presuming all the tank crews even these days have the necessary...ah..... equipment to make it less of a bother to improvise in cramped confines. Any tanker jocks here? -K

April 17, 2002, 09:14 PM	#24
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	I'm not a tanker jock, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I understand that one of the more popular features about the M-60 MBT was the bottom escape hatch, which was often used as a field expedient latrine. The M1 Abrams has no such hatch, and you have to leave the tank to go potty. I'm not sure about the whole bag idea, though.

April 17, 2002, 09:19 PM	#25
Ewok_Guy Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2001 Location: Endor Posts: 1,664	I'd rather poop in a sack than get a bullet in my face.