Kit for pesky marlin safety

Glamdring · July 30, 2001, 05:17 AM

http://www.sixgunner.com/comments/safetykit.htm

Hawkman · July 30, 2001, 09:57 AM

Forgive me if these are stupid questions:

will the kit work on ALL marlin models?

After installation do you have a half-cock hammer position like on the old Marlins?

Thanks,

H

Yanus · July 30, 2001, 10:23 AM

Hawkman, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask.
I believe the kit will work on all Marlins with the crossbolt safety.
No, you will not have a half cock because you are not replacing the hammer and sear.

July 30, 2001, 11:55 AM

Something else for my must-have list. Have you tried one of these, Glamdring?

Yanus, I think you would have a half-cock, since even the newer Marlins with the safety still have one.

Bulldog · July 30, 2001, 01:43 PM

Yep. My newer Marlin 1894P has a half-cock position. Newer Winchesters don't, though.

Yanus · July 30, 2001, 02:16 PM

Thanks, guys. I stand corrected. However, if the gun did not have a half-cock, adding the safety kit will not give it one. I was unaware that the new Marlins still had a half-cock. I guess they wanted a belt and suspenders or were just too lazy to redesign the hammer and sear.

Glamdring · July 30, 2001, 04:20 PM

I haven't tried on yet. But I really want the standard Marlin 45-70, just couldn't stand the safety.

Cooper has mentioned something about simply putting a washer on it so you can't push it on, but I like this kit idea. Much slicker IMHO & I thought people here at TFL might be interested.

Sure if someone posted on the BB at 6gunner you could get some feedback from other users.

stubby · July 30, 2001, 04:25 PM

What is the complaint about the safety??? I don't understand the need to replace it.

July 30, 2001, 05:42 PM

It's redundant, for one thing (hence Yanus' "belt and suspenders" comment). The half-cock IS the safety. It's also seen as a PC sellout, like Remington's locking safeties. And it's ugly.

Erich · July 30, 2001, 06:25 PM

But I don't think of my 1895 as anything other than what it is, a modern gun made for a modern world (which breeds modern idiocies).

The new kit looks like it works great, and the posted page (like so many things over at sixgunner.com) is lovely and wonderfully helpful, but it just doesn't strike me as something I need to blow money on. Thanks for posting the link, though, I'm sure a couple of my fellow curmudgeons will want to know about this.

RJ McCormack · July 30, 2001, 07:41 PM

Stubby,

A thought that may have not occured to you and is evidently a complaint from those that hunt dangerous game with these rifles is the liklehood that the safety may become accidently engaged during a stressful encounter with "big teeth and fur".

I've personally had this happen during a recent competition shoot. In my case, the second required to rectify the mistake caused only an increased "time on target". Those within bad breath distance of a bruin may not have that luxury.

I'm planning on installing this system on both of my Marlins. The cross-bolt is a redundant, unnecessary feature attempting to appease those who would have us all be politically correct.

Regards, Rob

CoyDog · July 30, 2001, 09:06 PM

I recently got a Marlin 1985 in 45/70, and keeping the safety off with a 1/4" O ring works great for me. You can take it off easily without altering anything on the rifle.
Good Shooting, CoyDog

Glamdring · July 30, 2001, 11:07 PM

My only problem with the Marlin safety is that it isn't needed IMO. I would normally carry a lever gun in condition 3 [ie chamber empty] and chamber a round as I mount the gun.

After carrying my Scout rifle around in the woods and hills I decided I would really prefer a lever gun as a "carry rifle" for hiking or bumming in the woods. Because they don't have any bolt handle to dig into your back.

ralphtt · September 10, 2001, 02:55 PM

Isn't that noisy enough to spook the critter you aim to shoot?

July 30, 2001, 05:17 AM	#1
Glamdring Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: MN Posts: 1,388	Kit for pesky marlin safety http://www.sixgunner.com/comments/safetykit.htm

July 30, 2001, 06:25 PM	#10
Erich Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 2,543	It just doesn't bother me. But I don't think of my 1895 as anything other than what it is, a modern gun made for a modern world (which breeds modern idiocies). The new kit looks like it works great, and the posted page (like so many things over at sixgunner.com) is lovely and wonderfully helpful, but it just doesn't strike me as something I need to blow money on. Thanks for posting the link, though, I'm sure a couple of my fellow curmudgeons will want to know about this.

September 10, 2001, 02:55 PM	#14
ralphtt Member Join Date: July 4, 2000 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 88	"Chamber a round as I mount the gun" . . . ? Isn't that noisy enough to spook the critter you aim to shoot?

July 30, 2001, 09:57 AM	#2
Hawkman Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 447	Forgive me if these are stupid questions: will the kit work on ALL marlin models? After installation do you have a half-cock hammer position like on the old Marlins? Thanks, H

July 30, 2001, 10:23 AM	#3
Yanus Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 1999 Location: Nowherespecial, TX Posts: 437	Hawkman, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. I believe the kit will work on all Marlins with the crossbolt safety. No, you will not have a half cock because you are not replacing the hammer and sear.

July 30, 2001, 11:55 AM	#4
Jeff, CA Guest Posts: n/a	Something else for my must-have list. Have you tried one of these, Glamdring? Yanus, I think you would have a half-cock, since even the newer Marlins with the safety still have one.

July 30, 2001, 01:43 PM	#5
Bulldog Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 1999 Location: Texas Posts: 564	Yep. My newer Marlin 1894P has a half-cock position. Newer Winchesters don't, though.

July 30, 2001, 02:16 PM	#6
Yanus Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 1999 Location: Nowherespecial, TX Posts: 437	Thanks, guys. I stand corrected. However, if the gun did not have a half-cock, adding the safety kit will not give it one. I was unaware that the new Marlins still had a half-cock. I guess they wanted a belt and suspenders or were just too lazy to redesign the hammer and sear.

July 30, 2001, 04:20 PM	#7
Glamdring Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: MN Posts: 1,388	I haven't tried on yet. But I really want the standard Marlin 45-70, just couldn't stand the safety. Cooper has mentioned something about simply putting a washer on it so you can't push it on, but I like this kit idea. Much slicker IMHO & I thought people here at TFL might be interested. Sure if someone posted on the BB at 6gunner you could get some feedback from other users.

July 30, 2001, 04:25 PM	#8
stubby Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 1999 Posts: 159	What is the complaint about the safety??? I don't understand the need to replace it.

July 30, 2001, 05:42 PM	#9
Jeff, CA Guest Posts: n/a	It's redundant, for one thing (hence Yanus' "belt and suspenders" comment). The half-cock IS the safety. It's also seen as a PC sellout, like Remington's locking safeties. And it's ugly.

July 30, 2001, 07:41 PM	#11
RJ McCormack Member Join Date: January 13, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 29	Stubby, A thought that may have not occured to you and is evidently a complaint from those that hunt dangerous game with these rifles is the liklehood that the safety may become accidently engaged during a stressful encounter with "big teeth and fur". I've personally had this happen during a recent competition shoot. In my case, the second required to rectify the mistake caused only an increased "time on target". Those within bad breath distance of a bruin may not have that luxury. I'm planning on installing this system on both of my Marlins. The cross-bolt is a redundant, unnecessary feature attempting to appease those who would have us all be politically correct. Regards, Rob

July 30, 2001, 09:06 PM	#12
CoyDog Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2000 Location: Wyoming Posts: 163	I recently got a Marlin 1985 in 45/70, and keeping the safety off with a 1/4" O ring works great for me. You can take it off easily without altering anything on the rifle. Good Shooting, CoyDog

July 30, 2001, 11:07 PM	#13
Glamdring Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: MN Posts: 1,388	My only problem with the Marlin safety is that it isn't needed IMO. I would normally carry a lever gun in condition 3 [ie chamber empty] and chamber a round as I mount the gun. After carrying my Scout rifle around in the woods and hills I decided I would really prefer a lever gun as a "carry rifle" for hiking or bumming in the woods. Because they don't have any bolt handle to dig into your back.