Where do you go for unbiased news?

Drjones · October 2, 2002, 01:57 AM

We all talk of the bias in the media. Is there anyplace to go for unbiased news?

Where do you get your news from?

chaim · October 2, 2002, 02:02 AM

All news is somewhat biased. Reporters are human and thus can't entirely take their biases out of it. It may only show up in their choices of stories, it may be more blantant. Some try hard to keep their biases out as much as possible, others don't try.

So you can try to go somewhere that does better than others to keep bias out, or you can go somewhere that shares yours.

For TV news I like Fox best (not unbiased, but more conservative and less anti-Israel in their biases than the other US TV options). For newpapers I don't particulartly like any that much (the conservative ones are usually less professional, the liberal ones range from doing a fairly decent job of keeping bias out but with major lapses to not even bothering to try and all the liberal ones tend to be rabidly anti-Israel).

I like The Jerusalem Post for my news out of Israel.

pax · October 2, 2002, 02:13 AM

What Chaim said.

There's no such thing as a non-biased source.

I catch radio news when I'm in the car, AP and UPI news online, and local newspaper in the evenings. Then I surf around online to see what everyone else is saying about the news (which, in a democracy, the most important aspect of the news anyway -- and yeah yeah we don't live in a democracy, except that we do. Nobody's worried about those dead white guys anymore.)

The only news source I don't watch is TeeVee. There's just not enough content to justify the irritation it produces. Exception to that is if there is a breaking, visual news story (eg, 9/11 qualified.)

pax

Television is a triumph of equipment over people, and the minds that control it are so small that you could put them in a gnat's navel with room left over for two caraway seeds and an agent's heart. -- Fred Allen

Tamara · October 2, 2002, 02:17 AM

If you add Soldier of Fiction and The Village Voice together and divide by two...

QuadOughtBuck · October 2, 2002, 03:39 AM

www.infowars.com the BEST source for news BAR NONE!!!!

El Rojo · October 2, 2002, 04:08 AM

www.cnn.com

Ala Dan · October 2, 2002, 04:29 AM

I watch CNN Headline News; but its not the same
since Lynne Russell left the airways! She did an out-
standing job, for a long time!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Hkmp5sd · October 2, 2002, 04:33 AM

TV is too biased. Radio is biased and not convenient. Newspapers and Magazines are simply too far behind the events.

I get my news online, reading multiple sources with the goal of getting enough total information to decide what is true and what is not.

I also visit sites like "Accuracy in Media" and "Media Research Center."

WilderBill · October 2, 2002, 06:25 AM

www.thedrudgereport.com has links to all the major sorces such as AP, UPI, Reuters, etc.
While they may all have some slant or other you can get veiws from other parts of the world and sort of average them out to see what's really going on.
If that's toomuch trouble, then Fox.
I like newsmax, too.

citizen · October 2, 2002, 06:40 AM

Don't think it's possible to find "unbiased" news.
Follow "events" in the local paper, Fox online, and often HERE.

H&K Fan · October 2, 2002, 08:05 AM

This is going to sound somewhat odd but I have a habit of waiting to see what SOF magazine has to say about certain news items. The delay is long but at least they aren't left wing media.

lonegunman · October 2, 2002, 08:11 AM

quote:

"If you add Soldier of Fiction and The Village Voice together and divide by two... "

Thats basically what I do too, but with Fox News and CNN.

PTNMIS · October 2, 2002, 08:18 AM

to counteract the typical news bias

Worldnetdaily

FPrice · October 2, 2002, 08:44 AM

In short, there is NO one source of unbiased news. Unless you go to the event yourself and observe what happened.

I think that you have to look at a variety of sources, both those with your own ideological/philosophical viewpoint AND some with the opposite viewpoint to try to determine what the truth really is.

Those sources that claim to be unbiased are only fooling themselves and are trying to fool you. Everyone has a bias. And we all think that our bias' are correct.

foghornl · October 2, 2002, 09:05 AM

Worldnet, Fox News and News Max. Sort of mix them all together, and see what you get

dischord · October 2, 2002, 09:14 AM

Quote:

If you add Soldier of Fiction and The Village Voice together and divide by two...

Actually, that's good advice, though given in tongue-in-cheek.

1) Look at the story from different sources.
2) Consider the source.

And remember, it's not just a bias problem. Stories are filtered by harried reporters. No matter how hard they try, they'll miss stuff -- sometimes important stuff. Alternatively, sometimes they'll throw in unimportant stuff because it's nearly deadline and they've got another inch to fill.

Waitone · October 2, 2002, 10:27 AM

All news is biased.

The best I can do is be skeptical and assume I'm being manipulated and lied to.

Use my skepticism and common sense to interpret what I hear.

Never ever react to one story from one source.

Look at the supports of both side of an issue. You can tell alot about what reality is by who supports what.

Kaylee · October 2, 2002, 10:38 AM

Well, not yet. But I just read in US News and World Report that the Democrats are in the early stages of planning their own little network to counteract all the Republican bias in the media....

:barf:

-K

BlackJack · October 2, 2002, 10:50 AM

There is no unbiased news. Even those who strive to present so called fair and balanced reporting wind up shading what they say with their own biases. No human being can be totally objective because we are neither omniscient nor without personal interests.

It's critical to analyze what you hear, check it against other sources and what you know to be true, and keep your BS meter finely tuned and fully operational.

I listen to FOX, Rush, & Hannity predominately and generally find NPR & network news to be obviously biased. I cancelled our local liberal rag although my wife will buy a newstand copy on occasion for sale info. But we take nothing that we read or hear at face value.

Fred Hansen · October 2, 2002, 11:02 AM

I go for biased news sources that admit their bias . Virtually all conservative sources admit it, a very few liberal ones do as well.

This phenomenon carries over into real life. I have yet to hear one of my conservative friends take offense at being called "conservative", but I constantly hear people (who I know to be liberal by the ideas that they espouse) say things like "Don't label me!" or goofier still, "I'm a moderate!". As much as I despise liberal ideology, I find those rare occasions, when a liberal cops to being liberal, refreshing. A thief that intends to take another's money by force of government to "do good" should at least admit that they are proud of being a thief.

FLM · October 2, 2002, 11:28 AM

The Washington Times is excellent. They also publish a weekly edition. Very pro-gun. U.S. News & World Report is fairly balanced and they have John Leo.

**Mal H** · October 2, 2002, 11:37 AM

About the closest to unbiased news I have found are the various wire services such as Associated Press, United Press Int., Reuters, etc. I figure that if I eliminate the middle man, the reporter/editor, then little bias is added. Although even the wire services have some bias included at no extra charge.

http://www.wsg.org/newsjour/
http://www.reuters.com/home.jhtml

CMichael · October 2, 2002, 11:50 AM

The only truely non biased news source is C-SPAN. If you watch an entire press conference without commentary there is no bias. The bias is from the news source itself.

CNN makes me puke. I watch fox news.

Michael

MrMurphy · October 2, 2002, 11:54 AM

As someone who used to work in the news media (TV news photographer) the only people I actually watch for TV reasonably-unbiased-news is Fox News Channel, CNN is a joke (I know people who work there, and who work for them overseas, and I could tell you some stories....... for one, reporters paying Palestinian kids to throw rocks at Israeli troops to get footage of kids getting shot at with rubber bullets!)

When it comes to internet, see if you can get UPI (United Press Int'l) Reuters is nearly as bad as BBC for overseas stuff, and don't ever trust ABC. Ever.

Associated Press is where most of the networks get the basics of their stories, and they still screw stuff up (I used to be on the AP system 20 hours a day, I can attest to that).

HKguy9 · October 2, 2002, 12:57 PM

Quoting Denzel from Training Day, "This is a newspaper...it's 90% bull[color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] but it's entertainment. That's why I read it." Or something like that

October 2, 2002, 01:57 AM	#1
Drjones Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2002 Posts: 1,239	Where do you go for unbiased news? We all talk of the bias in the media. Is there anyplace to go for unbiased news? Where do you get your news from?

October 2, 2002, 02:17 AM	#4
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	If you add Soldier of Fiction and The Village Voice together and divide by two... __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

October 2, 2002, 04:29 AM	#7
Ala Dan Member in memoriam Join Date: August 14, 1999 Location: In The HOT, Humid, and Mu Posts: 6,116	Biased or Not? I watch CNN Headline News; but its not the same since Lynne Russell left the airways! She did an out- standing job, for a long time! Best Wishes, Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

October 2, 2002, 04:33 AM	#8
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	No TV, Radio or Print Media...... TV is too biased. Radio is biased and not convenient. Newspapers and Magazines are simply too far behind the events. I get my news online, reading multiple sources with the goal of getting enough total information to decide what is true and what is not. I also visit sites like "Accuracy in Media" and "Media Research Center."

October 2, 2002, 08:44 AM	#14
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	No where. In short, there is NO one source of unbiased news. Unless you go to the event yourself and observe what happened. I think that you have to look at a variety of sources, both those with your own ideological/philosophical viewpoint AND some with the opposite viewpoint to try to determine what the truth really is. Those sources that claim to be unbiased are only fooling themselves and are trying to fool you. Everyone has a bias. And we all think that our bias' are correct.

October 2, 2002, 02:02 AM	#2
chaim Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,100	All news is somewhat biased. Reporters are human and thus can't entirely take their biases out of it. It may only show up in their choices of stories, it may be more blantant. Some try hard to keep their biases out as much as possible, others don't try. So you can try to go somewhere that does better than others to keep bias out, or you can go somewhere that shares yours. For TV news I like Fox best (not unbiased, but more conservative and less anti-Israel in their biases than the other US TV options). For newpapers I don't particulartly like any that much (the conservative ones are usually less professional, the liberal ones range from doing a fairly decent job of keeping bias out but with major lapses to not even bothering to try and all the liberal ones tend to be rabidly anti-Israel). I like The Jerusalem Post for my news out of Israel.

October 2, 2002, 02:13 AM	#3
pax Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: In a state of flux Posts: 7,520	What Chaim said. There's no such thing as a non-biased source. I catch radio news when I'm in the car, AP and UPI news online, and local newspaper in the evenings. Then I surf around online to see what everyone else is saying about the news (which, in a democracy, the most important aspect of the news anyway -- and yeah yeah we don't live in a democracy, except that we do. Nobody's worried about those dead white guys anymore.) The only news source I don't watch is TeeVee. There's just not enough content to justify the irritation it produces. Exception to that is if there is a breaking, visual news story (eg, 9/11 qualified.) pax Television is a triumph of equipment over people, and the minds that control it are so small that you could put them in a gnat's navel with room left over for two caraway seeds and an agent's heart. -- Fred Allen

October 2, 2002, 03:39 AM	#5
QuadOughtBuck Junior member Join Date: August 17, 2002 Posts: 120	www.infowars.com the BEST source for news BAR NONE!!!!

October 2, 2002, 04:08 AM	#6
El Rojo Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2000 Location: People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 2,057	www.cnn.com

October 2, 2002, 06:25 AM	#9
WilderBill Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 610	www.thedrudgereport.com has links to all the major sorces such as AP, UPI, Reuters, etc. While they may all have some slant or other you can get veiws from other parts of the world and sort of average them out to see what's really going on. If that's toomuch trouble, then Fox. I like newsmax, too.

October 2, 2002, 06:40 AM	#10
citizen Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2000 Posts: 796	Don't think it's possible to find "unbiased" news. Follow "events" in the local paper, Fox online, and often HERE.

October 2, 2002, 08:05 AM	#11
H&K Fan Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 1999 Posts: 138	This is going to sound somewhat odd but I have a habit of waiting to see what SOF magazine has to say about certain news items. The delay is long but at least they aren't left wing media.

October 2, 2002, 08:11 AM	#12
lonegunman Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2001 Location: deep in georgia Posts: 1,724	quote: "If you add Soldier of Fiction and The Village Voice together and divide by two... " Thats basically what I do too, but with Fox News and CNN.

October 2, 2002, 08:18 AM	#13
PTNMIS Junior Member Join Date: June 8, 2002 Posts: 14	to counteract the typical news bias Worldnetdaily

October 2, 2002, 09:05 AM	#15
foghornl Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,354	Worldnet, Fox News and News Max. Sort of mix them all together, and see what you get

October 2, 2002, 10:27 AM	#17
Waitone Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2000 Posts: 2,904	All news is biased. The best I can do is be skeptical and assume I'm being manipulated and lied to. Use my skepticism and common sense to interpret what I hear. Never ever react to one story from one source. Look at the supports of both side of an issue. You can tell alot about what reality is by who supports what.

October 2, 2002, 10:38 AM	#18
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,677	Well, not yet. But I just read in US News and World Report that the Democrats are in the early stages of planning their own little network to counteract all the Republican bias in the media.... :barf: -K

October 2, 2002, 10:50 AM	#19
BlackJack Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 1999 Location: FL Posts: 168	There is no unbiased news. Even those who strive to present so called fair and balanced reporting wind up shading what they say with their own biases. No human being can be totally objective because we are neither omniscient nor without personal interests. It's critical to analyze what you hear, check it against other sources and what you know to be true, and keep your BS meter finely tuned and fully operational. I listen to FOX, Rush, & Hannity predominately and generally find NPR & network news to be obviously biased. I cancelled our local liberal rag although my wife will buy a newstand copy on occasion for sale info. But we take nothing that we read or hear at face value.

October 2, 2002, 11:02 AM	#20
Fred Hansen Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: The middle of WWIII Posts: 3,335	I go for biased news sources that admit their bias . Virtually all conservative sources admit it, a very few liberal ones do as well. This phenomenon carries over into real life. I have yet to hear one of my conservative friends take offense at being called "conservative", but I constantly hear people (who I know to be liberal by the ideas that they espouse) say things like "Don't label me!" or goofier still, "I'm a moderate!". As much as I despise liberal ideology, I find those rare occasions, when a liberal cops to being liberal, refreshing. A thief that intends to take another's money by force of government to "do good" should at least admit that they are proud of being a thief.

October 2, 2002, 11:28 AM	#21
FLM Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 190	The Washington Times is excellent. They also publish a weekly edition. Very pro-gun. U.S. News & World Report is fairly balanced and they have John Leo.

October 2, 2002, 11:37 AM	#22
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,067	About the closest to unbiased news I have found are the various wire services such as Associated Press, United Press Int., Reuters, etc. I figure that if I eliminate the middle man, the reporter/editor, then little bias is added. Although even the wire services have some bias included at no extra charge. http://www.wsg.org/newsjour/ http://www.reuters.com/home.jhtml

October 2, 2002, 11:50 AM	#23
CMichael Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2001 Location: MI Posts: 1,516	The only truely non biased news source is C-SPAN. If you watch an entire press conference without commentary there is no bias. The bias is from the news source itself. CNN makes me puke. I watch fox news. Michael

October 2, 2002, 11:54 AM	#24
MrMurphy Member Join Date: August 13, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 92	As someone who used to work in the news media (TV news photographer) the only people I actually watch for TV reasonably-unbiased-news is Fox News Channel, CNN is a joke (I know people who work there, and who work for them overseas, and I could tell you some stories....... for one, reporters paying Palestinian kids to throw rocks at Israeli troops to get footage of kids getting shot at with rubber bullets!) When it comes to internet, see if you can get UPI (United Press Int'l) Reuters is nearly as bad as BBC for overseas stuff, and don't ever trust ABC. Ever. Associated Press is where most of the networks get the basics of their stories, and they still screw stuff up (I used to be on the AP system 20 hours a day, I can attest to that).

October 2, 2002, 12:57 PM	#25
HKguy9 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2001 Posts: 2,132	Quoting Denzel from Training Day, "This is a newspaper...it's 90% bull[color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] but it's entertainment. That's why I read it." Or something like that