what gun did James Bond carry?

Henry Baker · September 21, 2005, 10:37 PM

Whene Sean Connery was James Bond did he carry a PPK or a PPK/S? Also was it stainless steel, two tone, or blued? I am just curious.

Thanks,
Henry Baker

DPris · September 21, 2005, 10:52 PM

Blued PPK.
PPK/S didn't come along till after 1968, stainless didn't come till the 1980s.
Denis

Majic · September 22, 2005, 02:11 AM

In the first movie he was forced to turn in his Baby Beretta for the PPK.

croyance · September 22, 2005, 02:21 AM

In the beginning of the first Bond movie, Connery is seen sharpening the firing pin of his .25 ACP Beretta. He was made to change it for the Walther PPK in .32 ACP for the extra power. No joke.

The PPS/s was made for US import laws in the '80s.

denfoote · September 22, 2005, 08:26 AM

He now carries the Walther P99.

Cliff47 · September 22, 2005, 09:13 AM

If you look closely during 'Dr. No', you will notice that what is supposed to be a Walther PPK, could also be a Walther PP (check the barrel/slide length extending from Connery's fist). Also, at the cottage in the highlands (on Magenta Drive, if memory serves), he sits in wait with what looks like a suppressed FN 1910 (1906?). Always thought that was a continuity error.
Later on the doctor's island, that is a PPK that he carries.

In the book, the Armourer provided him a 'Berns Martin Triple-Draw holster'. Only drawback, that holster is designed for a revolver. FWIW.

NRAhab · September 22, 2005, 09:28 AM

Didn't that clown Roger Moore pack a Model 29 in one of the movies?

Webleymkv · September 22, 2005, 10:45 AM

In the book, Bond is forced to trade in his .25 Beretta because it got stuck in his holster and caused him to be injured on a previous assignment. He is also issued a S&W Airweight revolver in .38 Special as his "heavy" gun.

RickB · September 22, 2005, 11:46 AM

In the movie scene, where Bond turns in his Beretta, he's told that the .32 PPK has "a delivery like a freight train"; only in comparison to a .25!

Webleymkv · September 22, 2005, 11:55 AM

In the book the other two pistols that MI6 considered for Bond were the Tokarev TT33 and the Japanese Type 14

They said they went with the Walther because of ammo availability. I don't think Fleming was really a gun person. BTW a Walther in .32 is an excellent weapon (it's what I carry).

almark · September 22, 2005, 12:49 PM

I thought I remembered the line "...like a brick through a plateglass window." when describing the PPK as well. I suppose it is an upgrade when compared to the .25, but still...

GeorgeF · September 22, 2005, 01:05 PM

Agreed on plate glass window comment.

Yes, Moore did use a big revolver in one movie - forget exactly. Could be the one with the AMC Javelin.

Cliff47 · September 23, 2005, 10:38 AM

Roger Moore used the big S&W revolver (8" barrel) in 'Live and Let Die'. I think it was the .44 Magnum that Harry Callahan prefers.

The AMC Javelin was in 'The Man With the Golden Gun', car chase through the streets of Bangkok (how they got such light traffic and so many AMC vehicles for the local police is beyond me, been there), and the final duel in what was supposed to be the coast of China (actually Phang Na Bay). Bond was still carrying the Walther PPK.

PeterGunn · September 23, 2005, 11:02 AM

In Dr. No:

1. Beretta .25

2. Walther .32 (Both PP and PPK)

Remaining films the PPK is the most seen with what appears to be a pistol caliber rifle (.25???). The S&W Model 29 was seen in Live in Let Die, and now Jimmy can be seen with a Walther P99 in 9mm of course.

The books seem vary the weapons from story to story much more than the movies do.

God Bless!

Duxman · September 23, 2005, 11:14 AM

Right on: To be more precise:

In the begining year's of Bond's career - he used a Beretta .25 - in a firefight, he shot the BG, but because of the .25's lack of stopping power - it landed him in the hospital for six months (BG shot back). So in the begining of Dr No - he was forced to switch to the PPK in 7.65mm (.32 ACP). He tries to carry the .25 away but is caught and forced to leave it behind.

The PPK is his standard weapon through most of the Bond films but he occasionally uses other guns:

AR-7 with infrared scope - From Russia with Love.
M29 S&W .44 magnum in Live and Let Die.
Walther 2000 7.62mm Sniper rifle in Living Daylights
Walther P99 in 9mm from Tomorrow never dies until present.

Now in the books by Benson and Gardner, his gun choices are even more exotic:

Walther PPK - Fleming.
HK P7 M13, HK VP 70, Ruger Blackhawk .44 (Backup gun in car), S&W ASP 9mm - Gardner
Browning HP - Benson.

All fine guns. Wish I could afford a Walther 2000 - its one of the finest sniper rifles ever made.

Webleymkv · September 23, 2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

In the begining year's of Bond's career - he used a Beretta .25 - in a firefight, he shot the BG, but because of the .25's lack of stopping power - it landed him in the hospital for six months (BG shot back). So in the begining of Dr No - he was forced to switch to the PPK in 7.65mm (.32 ACP). He tries to carry the .25 away but is caught and forced to leave it behind.

The Beretta's failure was not due to a lack of stopping power. In the book From Russia with Love (which actually came before Dr. No), he attepts to draw the gun from his shoulder holster to defend himself from Rosa Kleb and her poison shoe dagger. The gun's silencer got caught in his soft shoulder holster and he got stabbed with the shoe. No reference was made as to why the gun failed in the movies. Also, in Dr. No when the professor comes to assasinate Bond and the gun is empty, Bond says "Doctor, that's a Smith and Wesson and you've had your six (shoots him)" It was actually a Colt 1911 that holds seven.

Jehzsa · September 23, 2005, 02:10 PM

http://www.bondcollection.com.ar/arm...bre007_eng.htm

Couple of mistakes there, but it could do for now.

Duxman · September 23, 2005, 02:29 PM

I respectfully disagree Mr. W: There is usually a big difference in dialogue in the movies vs what is in the book. And in the movies - He spent 6 months in the hospital because of a short exchange of fire between him and a BG. The reference is there in the movie. I have the DVD and have seen it many times. Perhaps the reference is not there in the book.

And in the movie - his PPK (In FRWL) is hung on a chair as Rosa Klebb comes in disguised as a maid. He holds her off with a chair as she tries to poison shoe him, and Tatyana Romanova shoot Klebb with his PPK. Cut to Gondola, with Bond and Romanova in Venice. Movie ends with him throwing film into water.

Webleymkv · September 24, 2005, 10:09 AM

I too have seen Dr. No many times (I used to have it on VHS). M says that Bond spent six months in the hospital but did not say it was due to a lack of stopping power in fact he said it jammed (which is also different from the book). Later, when Major Boothroyd (Q) enters the room and evaluates the pistol he says that it has no stopping power. So while both a failure of the gun an lack of stopping power are mentioned, they are not necissarily linked. So I was wrong there is a reference to why the gun failed in the movie. I must have had a brain fart when I typed my last post.

James K · September 26, 2005, 11:48 AM

Clif47 is right. In that film, IIRC, Bond ducks behind a couch with his much touted PPK, then comes up with a Browning Model 1910 with a "suppressor".

The reason was that it is easy to fit up a 1910 with a fake (or real) suppressor, you only need install a Model 1922 barrel to give the extra length. They could have done the same thing by putting a PPK slide on a PP, but either they didn't think of that or didn't have a PP handy.

Jim

PepperGarza · June 8, 2007, 04:15 PM

Does anyone know what shoulder holster Pierce Brosnan used for his PPK in Tomorrow Never Dies? It can be seen fairly well in the scene where Paris Carver is in his hotel room.

Jim Watson · June 8, 2007, 05:06 PM

I consider the books canon. The movies are just cartoons.

Fleming was not of the Gun Culture. Geoffrey Boothroyd helped all he could but sometimes Fleming did not discuss gun stuff with him or did not take his advice.

Jim Preston · June 8, 2007, 05:16 PM

Webley- the Beretta was stuck inside his waitband, no holster. He holds Rosa Klebb off with a chair until Mathis arives. It is when Mathis and Bond are talking when Klebb shoe-knives Bond. When he would have needed his Beretta would be when she was attacking him with the poison knitting-needles.

Samurai · June 8, 2007, 05:31 PM

That's right! .25! I remember in Goldeneye, when the Russian mobster guy was describing the gun Bond was holding based on the sound it made when Bond chambered the round. I remember, it was a weird calibur... I think he said it was a .25 calibur Walther PPk. Or was it a .32?

"Only three men I know carry such a gun ... I ... believe I have killed two of them."

Can anyone confirm that?

Magnum.35744 · June 8, 2007, 05:39 PM

It was a 6 1/2" Inch with a nickel finish. Towards the end of the movie were he goes to save that one girl he uses it to kill 2 people...it was pretty interesting cause once he shot the man coming toward him with a knife he literally blew him back off his feet and I believe made him do a back flip...not to realistic

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-Tre

September 21, 2005, 10:37 PM	#1
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	what gun did James Bond carry? Whene Sean Connery was James Bond did he carry a PPK or a PPK/S? Also was it stainless steel, two tone, or blued? I am just curious. Thanks, Henry Baker

September 23, 2005, 11:02 AM	#14
PeterGunn Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 738	Jimmy Bond In Dr. No: 1. Beretta .25 2. Walther .32 (Both PP and PPK) Remaining films the PPK is the most seen with what appears to be a pistol caliber rifle (.25???). The S&W Model 29 was seen in Live in Let Die, and now Jimmy can be seen with a Walther P99 in 9mm of course. The books seem vary the weapons from story to story much more than the movies do. God Bless! __________________ "By His stripes we are healed..." PeterGunn

June 8, 2007, 04:15 PM	#21
PepperGarza Junior Member Join Date: April 25, 2007 Posts: 5	James Bonds Holster Does anyone know what shoulder holster Pierce Brosnan used for his PPK in Tomorrow Never Dies? It can be seen fairly well in the scene where Paris Carver is in his hotel room.

June 8, 2007, 05:39 PM	#25
Magnum.35744 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 269	About the S&W .44 Magnum he used... It was a 6 1/2" Inch with a nickel finish. Towards the end of the movie were he goes to save that one girl he uses it to kill 2 people...it was pretty interesting cause once he shot the man coming toward him with a knife he literally blew him back off his feet and I believe made him do a back flip...not to realistic . -Tre

September 21, 2005, 10:52 PM	#2
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Blued PPK. PPK/S didn't come along till after 1968, stainless didn't come till the 1980s. Denis

September 22, 2005, 02:11 AM	#3
Majic Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2004 Posts: 3,888	In the first movie he was forced to turn in his Baby Beretta for the PPK.

September 22, 2005, 02:21 AM	#4
croyance Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2001 Posts: 3,604	In the beginning of the first Bond movie, Connery is seen sharpening the firing pin of his .25 ACP Beretta. He was made to change it for the Walther PPK in .32 ACP for the extra power. No joke. The PPS/s was made for US import laws in the '80s.

September 22, 2005, 08:26 AM	#5
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	He now carries the Walther P99.

September 22, 2005, 09:13 AM	#6
Cliff47 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2005 Posts: 413	If you look closely during 'Dr. No', you will notice that what is supposed to be a Walther PPK, could also be a Walther PP (check the barrel/slide length extending from Connery's fist). Also, at the cottage in the highlands (on Magenta Drive, if memory serves), he sits in wait with what looks like a suppressed FN 1910 (1906?). Always thought that was a continuity error. Later on the doctor's island, that is a PPK that he carries. In the book, the Armourer provided him a 'Berns Martin Triple-Draw holster'. Only drawback, that holster is designed for a revolver. FWIW.

September 22, 2005, 09:28 AM	#7
NRAhab Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 683	Didn't that clown Roger Moore pack a Model 29 in one of the movies?

September 22, 2005, 10:45 AM	#8
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,610	In the book, Bond is forced to trade in his .25 Beretta because it got stuck in his holster and caused him to be injured on a previous assignment. He is also issued a S&W Airweight revolver in .38 Special as his "heavy" gun.

September 22, 2005, 11:46 AM	#9
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,559	In the movie scene, where Bond turns in his Beretta, he's told that the .32 PPK has "a delivery like a freight train"; only in comparison to a .25!

September 22, 2005, 11:55 AM	#10
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,610	In the book the other two pistols that MI6 considered for Bond were the Tokarev TT33 and the Japanese Type 14 They said they went with the Walther because of ammo availability. I don't think Fleming was really a gun person. BTW a Walther in .32 is an excellent weapon (it's what I carry).

September 22, 2005, 12:49 PM	#11
almark Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2005 Location: TX Posts: 359	I thought I remembered the line "...like a brick through a plateglass window." when describing the PPK as well. I suppose it is an upgrade when compared to the .25, but still...

September 22, 2005, 01:05 PM	#12
GeorgeF Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2004 Posts: 572	Agreed on plate glass window comment. Yes, Moore did use a big revolver in one movie - forget exactly. Could be the one with the AMC Javelin.

September 23, 2005, 10:38 AM	#13
Cliff47 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2005 Posts: 413	Roger Moore used the big S&W revolver (8" barrel) in 'Live and Let Die'. I think it was the .44 Magnum that Harry Callahan prefers. The AMC Javelin was in 'The Man With the Golden Gun', car chase through the streets of Bangkok (how they got such light traffic and so many AMC vehicles for the local police is beyond me, been there), and the final duel in what was supposed to be the coast of China (actually Phang Na Bay). Bond was still carrying the Walther PPK.

September 23, 2005, 11:14 AM	#15
Duxman Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2005 Location: VA Posts: 1,294	Right on: To be more precise: In the begining year's of Bond's career - he used a Beretta .25 - in a firefight, he shot the BG, but because of the .25's lack of stopping power - it landed him in the hospital for six months (BG shot back). So in the begining of Dr No - he was forced to switch to the PPK in 7.65mm (.32 ACP). He tries to carry the .25 away but is caught and forced to leave it behind. The PPK is his standard weapon through most of the Bond films but he occasionally uses other guns: AR-7 with infrared scope - From Russia with Love. M29 S&W .44 magnum in Live and Let Die. Walther 2000 7.62mm Sniper rifle in Living Daylights Walther P99 in 9mm from Tomorrow never dies until present. Now in the books by Benson and Gardner, his gun choices are even more exotic: Walther PPK - Fleming. HK P7 M13, HK VP 70, Ruger Blackhawk .44 (Backup gun in car), S&W ASP 9mm - Gardner Browning HP - Benson. All fine guns. Wish I could afford a Walther 2000 - its one of the finest sniper rifles ever made.

September 23, 2005, 02:10 PM	#17
Jehzsa Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 756	http://www.bondcollection.com.ar/arm...bre007_eng.htm Couple of mistakes there, but it could do for now.

September 23, 2005, 02:29 PM	#18
Duxman Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2005 Location: VA Posts: 1,294	I respectfully disagree Mr. W: There is usually a big difference in dialogue in the movies vs what is in the book. And in the movies - He spent 6 months in the hospital because of a short exchange of fire between him and a BG. The reference is there in the movie. I have the DVD and have seen it many times. Perhaps the reference is not there in the book. And in the movie - his PPK (In FRWL) is hung on a chair as Rosa Klebb comes in disguised as a maid. He holds her off with a chair as she tries to poison shoe him, and Tatyana Romanova shoot Klebb with his PPK. Cut to Gondola, with Bond and Romanova in Venice. Movie ends with him throwing film into water.

September 24, 2005, 10:09 AM	#19
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,610	I too have seen Dr. No many times (I used to have it on VHS). M says that Bond spent six months in the hospital but did not say it was due to a lack of stopping power in fact he said it jammed (which is also different from the book). Later, when Major Boothroyd (Q) enters the room and evaluates the pistol he says that it has no stopping power. So while both a failure of the gun an lack of stopping power are mentioned, they are not necissarily linked. So I was wrong there is a reference to why the gun failed in the movie. I must have had a brain fart when I typed my last post.

September 26, 2005, 11:48 AM	#20
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Clif47 is right. In that film, IIRC, Bond ducks behind a couch with his much touted PPK, then comes up with a Browning Model 1910 with a "suppressor". The reason was that it is easy to fit up a 1910 with a fake (or real) suppressor, you only need install a Model 1922 barrel to give the extra length. They could have done the same thing by putting a PPK slide on a PP, but either they didn't think of that or didn't have a PP handy. Jim

June 8, 2007, 05:06 PM	#22
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,185	I consider the books canon. The movies are just cartoons. Fleming was not of the Gun Culture. Geoffrey Boothroyd helped all he could but sometimes Fleming did not discuss gun stuff with him or did not take his advice.

June 8, 2007, 05:16 PM	#23
Jim Preston Member Join Date: May 12, 2007 Posts: 33	Webley- the Beretta was stuck inside his waitband, no holster. He holds Rosa Klebb off with a chair until Mathis arives. It is when Mathis and Bond are talking when Klebb shoe-knives Bond. When he would have needed his Beretta would be when she was attacking him with the poison knitting-needles.

June 8, 2007, 05:31 PM	#24
Samurai Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 901	That's right! .25! I remember in Goldeneye, when the Russian mobster guy was describing the gun Bond was holding based on the sound it made when Bond chambered the round. I remember, it was a weird calibur... I think he said it was a .25 calibur Walther PPk. Or was it a .32? "Only three men I know carry such a gun ... I ... believe I have killed two of them." Can anyone confirm that?