Manlicher Stocked 10/22?

baddarryl · June 29, 2013, 06:51 PM

Hi all. I have posted another thread about Appleseed, but specifically wanted to ask about this rifle. I really like the looks of them. I have decided between this and the Target Walnut 10/22 to get if I can ever get my hands on one. How do these stack up against other 10/22's as far as accuracy and can the barrel be fitted with Tech Sights. I couldn't find that answer on their site. Overall impressions? Thank you.

tahunua001 · June 29, 2013, 07:12 PM

probably not on the front sight, for rear sights it would work just fine though. the front sight of the 10/22 would work very well with an aperture system like tech sights rear. as for accuracy it'll be no more or less accurate than your average joe schmoe carbine but it won't be a tack driver like the super customs you see everywhere.

horselips · June 29, 2013, 09:08 PM

I love the looks of the Mannlicher stocked 10/22. It's gorgeous, especially in stainless steel. If I ever decide to get another 10/22, it will definitely be one of those.

jersurf101 · June 29, 2013, 11:32 PM

My Father has a manlicher stock stainless 10/22. It shoots well with the open sights. I am not a fan of the stock but it is a good shooter.

It is on par with my blued stock 10/22

dgludwig · June 30, 2013, 12:59 PM

I put a Williams receiver (peep) sight on my Talo rendition of the 10-22 International mannlicher-stocked rifle. I have other .22 rifles wearing scopes and I like the balance and looks of this little carbine, sans glass.

baddarryl · June 30, 2013, 01:04 PM

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I put a Williams receiver (peep) sight on my Talo rendition of the 10-22 International manlicher-stocked rifle. I have other .22 rifles wearing scopes and I like the balance and looks of this little carbine, sans glass.

Did you use the front sight that came with that kit or did it work with the stock sight?

dgludwig · June 30, 2013, 01:18 PM

I haven't shot the rifle with the new sight yet but plan to in the next few days. You have a choice in terms of which front sight that is included (I opted for the more conventional brass one as opposed to the high-visibility, plastic one) in the "kit". From what I've been able to research, it seems that there's a good likelyhood that a different height front sight will be necessary but I want to shoot it first @ 50 yards before I make any changes. I'll try to remember to report my experience at the range once I dirty the barrel.

baddarryl · June 30, 2013, 03:11 PM

Thank you.

WARRIOR I · June 30, 2013, 03:53 PM

I really want them to make a 77/22 with that style of stock. I mentioned this to one of the Ruger reps at a NRA convention in Charlotte, NC several years ago and he made some notes, but evidently nothing ever came of it.

dgludwig · June 30, 2013, 04:18 PM

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I really want them to make a 77/22 with that style of stock.

A mannlicher-stocked Model 77/22 would make for a really nice looking rifle. My guess is that Ruger's marketing strategists have decided that the demand for such a configuration would be so low as to not merit consideration for its production. As compared to the standard offerings in their 10-22 and M-77 models, I doubt that the "International" style of stock is all that popular. Too bad, in my estimation.

jmr40 · June 30, 2013, 04:23 PM

The Mannlicher stocked guns don't appeal to me, but if they do to you then I don't think you can go wrong. If you are interested in the target model I think you'd be better off building one from aftermarket parts in my opinion.

**Shane Tuttle** · June 30, 2013, 06:40 PM

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How do these stack up against other 10/22's as far as accuracy and can the barrel be fitted with Tech Sights. I couldn't find that answer on their site. Overall impressions?

Keeping apples to apples and comparing the mannlicher with most any other stock 10/22, it shoots just as well. At the Appleseed I attended, there was a person using one. The target was being shredded well enough that the owner earned his Rifleman patch...on his first Appleseed.

I certainly understand people have their own tastes. But I'm at a constant bewilderment how one doesn't like the mannlicher stocks on guns. I was lucky to find one in stainless although I'm a blued fan.

ThomasT · June 30, 2013, 06:49 PM

Since the tech Sights mount in the front dovetail I can't see why they wouldn't work on the full stock 10/22.

I bought a green laminate stock from a woman who had replaced it with a Buler Creek plastic stock. We were talking about shooting and said she had a stock for a 10/22 she wanted to sell. When she brought it out of her house I was surprised. I expected the regular hardwood stock. She stated she would take $25 for it. I wish I could draw a pistol as fast as I drew my wallet.

I mounted a blued action in it and painted the silver fore end cap. It can be cleaned off. Now I have a SS with synthetic 10/22 I should mount in the stock but I really like it the way it is.

As far as accuracy goes I can't tell any difference from the old stock to the new. I wish I could find an affordable 243 international. Or better yet a 7x57.

Waspinator · July 1, 2013, 12:31 PM

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I really want them to make a 77/22 with that style of stock. I mentioned this to one of the Ruger reps at a NRA convention in Charlotte, NC several years ago and he made some notes, but evidently nothing ever came of it.

There is a Lipsey's 77/22 with that style of stock.. but it is 22 WMRF instead of 22 LR. So, if your willing to go to .22 magnum, there is a rifle for you out there.

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...eets/7040.html

ThomasT · July 1, 2013, 03:58 PM

Here ya go. A 77/22 SS in a full length stock. And the seller has 15 of them on hand.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=348466849

And check this 10/22 out. I have never seen this checkering from Ruger.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=350987926

dgludwig · July 1, 2013, 06:50 PM

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And check this 10/22 out. I have never seen this checkering from Ruger.

It's not a cataloged rifle from Ruger; it's a special run of Talo-inspired renditions, generally available only at select dealers that qualify for the Talo iteration.

ThomasT · July 2, 2013, 10:59 AM

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It's not a cataloged rifle from Ruger; it's a special run of Talo-inspired renditions

Yes, thats what it says in the description of the gun. Too bad Ruger won't offer that style of checkering on a regular basis.

dgludwig · July 2, 2013, 11:33 AM

The so-called basket-weave style of "checkering" (the early specimens were actually impressed on the wood; I'm not sure if the current Talo version is machine-cut or not) is not new (some of the first examples of this form that I remember are the early sixties Winchester Model 88 and 100 carbines) but my tastes are fairly "traditional", which is why I much prefer conventional checkering.

The Talo mannlicher-stocked Ruger International Model 10-22 that I recently purchased looks very similar to the gunbroker model you helpfully provided the link for, but mine is checkered in the customary manner and is constructed of s/s. I purchased mine for $309.99 from my lgs but (afterwards

) I saw them selling for $289.99.

csmsss · July 2, 2013, 03:01 PM

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Here ya go. A 77/22 SS in a full length stock. And the seller has 15 of them on hand.

And will continue to, at over $700 per copy!

Here's a CZ 455 FS for almost $200 less: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=350155488

ThomasT · July 2, 2013, 07:35 PM

CSMSSS I agree. I have a 77/22 made around 1986 IIRC and it will shoot 10 shot groups at 50 yards into a 1" square but for $700+ I can think of lots of other stuff I would rather have. And the CZ would be a gun I would go for before the ruger.

DGLUDWIG my buddies brother had winchester 100s in all 3 calibers. A 243, 284 winchester and 308 and all had the pressed basket weave checkering. It didn't look too bad, not like some other pressed checkering I have seen. Someone broke into his house and stole all of them.

Looking at that ruger it looks to me like it is machine cut. I can't imagine anyone doing pressed checking in this day with computor controled machines available.

Ferrari · July 31, 2013, 09:15 PM

The Tech Sights front sight will work fine on the Mannlicher stocked 10/22... It's awfully hard to beat the OEM front sight loose on some guns, but you'll get it eventually if you work on it.

Tech Sights rock... they sell two models, the 100 and 200 series... the 100 is the simple setup... you dial in your windage with the rear aperture and your elevation with the front post.

I originally bought the TS 100 and found the stock Tech Sights front post to be too short for me... to raise it enough to bring my shots down where I needed at 25m the front post was a little bit loose and the detent was hardly engaged... it barely worked and I had no confidence in my gun set up that way.

If you buy the TS 200, you get a sight with both elevation and windage on the rear sight AND a taller front post adjustable for elevation.

Saving $10 upfront didn't work out for me... I eventually upgraded to both the elevation adjustable aperture and the taller front post.

June 29, 2013, 06:51 PM	#1
baddarryl Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2011 Location: Cape Fear! Posts: 1,700	Manlicher Stocked 10/22? Hi all. I have posted another thread about Appleseed, but specifically wanted to ask about this rifle. I really like the looks of them. I have decided between this and the Target Walnut 10/22 to get if I can ever get my hands on one. How do these stack up against other 10/22's as far as accuracy and can the barrel be fitted with Tech Sights. I couldn't find that answer on their site. Overall impressions? Thank you.

June 29, 2013, 07:12 PM	#2
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	probably not on the front sight, for rear sights it would work just fine though. the front sight of the 10/22 would work very well with an aperture system like tech sights rear. as for accuracy it'll be no more or less accurate than your average joe schmoe carbine but it won't be a tack driver like the super customs you see everywhere. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

June 30, 2013, 12:59 PM	#5
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,487	I put a Williams receiver (peep) sight on my Talo rendition of the 10-22 International mannlicher-stocked rifle. I have other .22 rifles wearing scopes and I like the balance and looks of this little carbine, sans glass. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member Last edited by dgludwig; June 30, 2013 at 04:19 PM.

June 30, 2013, 01:18 PM	#7
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,487	I haven't shot the rifle with the new sight yet but plan to in the next few days. You have a choice in terms of which front sight that is included (I opted for the more conventional brass one as opposed to the high-visibility, plastic one) in the "kit". From what I've been able to research, it seems that there's a good likelyhood that a different height front sight will be necessary but I want to shoot it first @ 50 yards before I make any changes. I'll try to remember to report my experience at the range once I dirty the barrel. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

June 30, 2013, 06:49 PM	#13
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,773	Since the tech Sights mount in the front dovetail I can't see why they wouldn't work on the full stock 10/22. I bought a green laminate stock from a woman who had replaced it with a Buler Creek plastic stock. We were talking about shooting and said she had a stock for a 10/22 she wanted to sell. When she brought it out of her house I was surprised. I expected the regular hardwood stock. She stated she would take $25 for it. I wish I could draw a pistol as fast as I drew my wallet. I mounted a blued action in it and painted the silver fore end cap. It can be cleaned off. Now I have a SS with synthetic 10/22 I should mount in the stock but I really like it the way it is. As far as accuracy goes I can't tell any difference from the old stock to the new. I wish I could find an affordable 243 international. Or better yet a 7x57. Last edited by ThomasT; July 1, 2013 at 03:58 PM.

June 29, 2013, 09:08 PM	#3
horselips Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Posts: 159	I love the looks of the Mannlicher stocked 10/22. It's gorgeous, especially in stainless steel. If I ever decide to get another 10/22, it will definitely be one of those.

June 29, 2013, 11:32 PM	#4
jersurf101 Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 553	My Father has a manlicher stock stainless 10/22. It shoots well with the open sights. I am not a fan of the stock but it is a good shooter. It is on par with my blued stock 10/22

June 30, 2013, 03:11 PM	#8
baddarryl Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2011 Location: Cape Fear! Posts: 1,700	Thank you.

June 30, 2013, 03:53 PM	#9
WARRIOR I Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2009 Location: SC Posts: 169	I really want them to make a 77/22 with that style of stock. I mentioned this to one of the Ruger reps at a NRA convention in Charlotte, NC several years ago and he made some notes, but evidently nothing ever came of it.

June 30, 2013, 04:23 PM	#11
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,976	The Mannlicher stocked guns don't appeal to me, but if they do to you then I don't think you can go wrong. If you are interested in the target model I think you'd be better off building one from aftermarket parts in my opinion.

July 1, 2013, 03:58 PM	#15
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,773	Here ya go. A 77/22 SS in a full length stock. And the seller has 15 of them on hand. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=348466849 And check this 10/22 out. I have never seen this checkering from Ruger. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=350987926

July 2, 2013, 11:33 AM	#18
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,487	The so-called basket-weave style of "checkering" (the early specimens were actually impressed on the wood; I'm not sure if the current Talo version is machine-cut or not) is not new (some of the first examples of this form that I remember are the early sixties Winchester Model 88 and 100 carbines) but my tastes are fairly "traditional", which is why I much prefer conventional checkering. The Talo mannlicher-stocked Ruger International Model 10-22 that I recently purchased looks very similar to the gunbroker model you helpfully provided the link for, but mine is checkered in the customary manner and is constructed of s/s. I purchased mine for $309.99 from my lgs but (afterwards ) I saw them selling for $289.99. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

July 2, 2013, 07:35 PM	#20
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,773	CSMSSS I agree. I have a 77/22 made around 1986 IIRC and it will shoot 10 shot groups at 50 yards into a 1" square but for $700+ I can think of lots of other stuff I would rather have. And the CZ would be a gun I would go for before the ruger. DGLUDWIG my buddies brother had winchester 100s in all 3 calibers. A 243, 284 winchester and 308 and all had the pressed basket weave checkering. It didn't look too bad, not like some other pressed checkering I have seen. Someone broke into his house and stole all of them. Looking at that ruger it looks to me like it is machine cut. I can't imagine anyone doing pressed checking in this day with computor controled machines available. Last edited by ThomasT; July 2, 2013 at 07:46 PM.

July 31, 2013, 09:15 PM	#21
Ferrari Member Join Date: July 2, 2010 Posts: 23	Regarding the Tech Sights The Tech Sights front sight will work fine on the Mannlicher stocked 10/22... It's awfully hard to beat the OEM front sight loose on some guns, but you'll get it eventually if you work on it. Tech Sights rock... they sell two models, the 100 and 200 series... the 100 is the simple setup... you dial in your windage with the rear aperture and your elevation with the front post. I originally bought the TS 100 and found the stock Tech Sights front post to be too short for me... to raise it enough to bring my shots down where I needed at 25m the front post was a little bit loose and the detent was hardly engaged... it barely worked and I had no confidence in my gun set up that way. If you buy the TS 200, you get a sight with both elevation and windage on the rear sight AND a taller front post adjustable for elevation. Saving $10 upfront didn't work out for me... I eventually upgraded to both the elevation adjustable aperture and the taller front post.