Has anyone ever made a "pocket" 22mag semi auto?

TennJed · June 28, 2013, 01:42 AM

I like unique guns and I like small guns. I was wondering if anyone has ever made a 22 mag "pocket" gun? Something the size of the Beretta Bobcat (or smaller)? I don't want this to turn into a "answer to a question never asked " debate. I am not looking for a new CCW, I just like unusual and small guns

silvermane_1 · June 28, 2013, 01:48 AM

not sure, but i did hear a rumor that some one had a custom Auto Mag 2 with 3" bbl., but i don't think that it would qualify as a pocket pistol.

natman · June 28, 2013, 02:52 AM

Unlikely. First, the 22 mag is fairly long, requiring a wider magazine and grip. Second, the 22 mag requires a heavy slide and lots of spring strength to control it. It's a challenge to make any semiauto pistol work in 22 mag, much less a tiny one.

kcub · June 28, 2013, 05:11 AM

Just snub revolvers I'm aware of. I used to have a 9 shot Hi Standard Sentinel back in the 70's. Ruger (ugly!) and maybe Taurus(crap) make one now.

Old Stony · June 28, 2013, 06:22 AM

Hi Standard made their two shot derringer with pocket use in mind. It had a long double action pull and was really flat. Some makers even made wallet holsters that had a cutout where it could be fired without removing it from the holster.......these are illegal to use most places anymore. The derringer came in either .22lr. or magnum.

BubbaBlades · June 28, 2013, 10:11 AM

The smaller of these AMTs has a 3 1/2" barrel.

Mark

PetahW · June 28, 2013, 12:01 PM

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I had all 3 issue AMT .22 WRM Auto-Mag bbl lengths, and that 3-1/2" handled the best of the lot.

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Old Stony · June 28, 2013, 01:07 PM

If my mind serves me right...which is not always the case anymore, I think those AMT's were very ammo sensitive, and I seem to remember them recommending Federal ammo only. I seem to remember a problem wherein they had to do strange things with the chambers to slow down the recoil of the spent round, to make up for the lack of recoil spring strength. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I think they had problems with the .30 carbine version also.

TennJed · June 28, 2013, 04:25 PM

Thanks guys, I am kinda shopping for a 22mag snub nose revolver and this question popped in my head

Skans · June 28, 2013, 05:47 PM

The Grendel P-30 was about the smallest, lightest weight semi-auto .22 magnum made. Keltec makes the PMR 30. Of course, neither of these are pocket guns by any stretch.

**Aguila Blanca** · June 28, 2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbaBlades

The smaller of these AMTs has a 3 1/2" barrel.

Thanks fer nuttin'.

I never knew there was a compact version of the Automag. Now I have to go find one. My wife and my wallet are going to hate you.

natman · June 29, 2013, 04:16 AM

Quote:

The smaller of these AMTs has a 3 1/2" barrel.

Note the unusually wide (front to back) grip to accommodate the long 22 mag cartridge. While the 3.5" barrel version is fairly small, it's still considerably larger than a Beretta Bobcat.

IIRC, AMT had to dimple the chambers to give the expanded case enough grip to delay extraction long enough for the bullet to exit the muzzle.

June 28, 2013, 01:42 AM	#1
TennJed Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2010 Posts: 1,536	Has anyone ever made a "pocket" 22mag semi auto? I like unique guns and I like small guns. I was wondering if anyone has ever made a 22 mag "pocket" gun? Something the size of the Beretta Bobcat (or smaller)? I don't want this to turn into a "answer to a question never asked " debate. I am not looking for a new CCW, I just like unusual and small guns

June 28, 2013, 04:25 PM	#9
TennJed Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2010 Posts: 1,536	Has anyone ever made a "pocket" 22mag semi auto? Thanks guys, I am kinda shopping for a 22mag snub nose revolver and this question popped in my head

June 28, 2013, 01:48 AM	#2
silvermane_1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: Burien,WA Posts: 897	not sure, but i did hear a rumor that some one had a custom Auto Mag 2 with 3" bbl., but i don't think that it would qualify as a pocket pistol.

June 28, 2013, 02:52 AM	#3
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Posts: 2,681	Unlikely. First, the 22 mag is fairly long, requiring a wider magazine and grip. Second, the 22 mag requires a heavy slide and lots of spring strength to control it. It's a challenge to make any semiauto pistol work in 22 mag, much less a tiny one.

June 28, 2013, 05:11 AM	#4
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,332	Just snub revolvers I'm aware of. I used to have a 9 shot Hi Standard Sentinel back in the 70's. Ruger (ugly!) and maybe Taurus(crap) make one now.

June 28, 2013, 06:22 AM	#5
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	Hi Standard made their two shot derringer with pocket use in mind. It had a long double action pull and was really flat. Some makers even made wallet holsters that had a cutout where it could be fired without removing it from the holster.......these are illegal to use most places anymore. The derringer came in either .22lr. or magnum.

June 28, 2013, 10:11 AM	#6
BubbaBlades Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2013 Location: South Florida Posts: 121	The smaller of these AMTs has a 3 1/2" barrel. Mark

June 28, 2013, 12:01 PM	#7
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. I had all 3 issue AMT .22 WRM Auto-Mag bbl lengths, and that 3-1/2" handled the best of the lot. .

June 28, 2013, 01:07 PM	#8
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	If my mind serves me right...which is not always the case anymore, I think those AMT's were very ammo sensitive, and I seem to remember them recommending Federal ammo only. I seem to remember a problem wherein they had to do strange things with the chambers to slow down the recoil of the spent round, to make up for the lack of recoil spring strength. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think they had problems with the .30 carbine version also.

June 28, 2013, 05:47 PM	#10
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,331	The Grendel P-30 was about the smallest, lightest weight semi-auto .22 magnum made. Keltec makes the PMR 30. Of course, neither of these are pocket guns by any stretch.