Who makes it? 9mm 1911

Dashunde · June 20, 2013, 09:03 AM

The recent review of the Dan Wesson CCO put me on the hunt for a similar 1911...

Who makes a 9mm 1911 with a Commander slide on a Officer frame in all-stainless?

Caz83 · June 20, 2013, 01:43 PM

Good question. Nothing really comes to mind except having one custom built.

Main reason could be is that the Commander slide/officer frame is meant as a carry/SD weapon. Ideally in low light situations, you would want a flat black/ blued carry vs a stainless steel finish due to the light that will mirror and glare off of the SS finish giving the "bad guy" your position + it's harder to conceal.

I would assume this is the reason why the Dan Wesson guardian, CCO, ECO are all blued with Night sights.

Here's more info.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470565

BigJimP · June 20, 2013, 03:28 PM

Wilson combat has a number of models that will meet that spec....and an all stainless finish is an option on most of their models.

I have full sized, 5", Protector Model....in 9mm from Wilson that I've had for about 6 yrs....its a great gun / my primary range practice gun - where my primary carry gun is the same gun in .45acp...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...0&d=1357338028

( the all stainless Wilson, is 2nd gun up from bottom / the bottom one is my 5" carry gun - Wilson CQB model )....Les Baer at top left is also a 9mm but its a 5" Monolith model / and gun at far right, top is a Kimber Tactical Pro II model, 4", alloy frame in 9mm as well...the others are .45 acp...

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I prefer Wilson's for my 1911's...over Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Les Baer, etc...but other companies like Colt, etc have made 1911's in 9mm for a long time...

buckhorn_cortez · June 20, 2013, 10:14 PM

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I would assume this is the reason why the Dan Wesson guardian, CCO, ECO are all blued with Night sights.

None of the Dan Wesson pistols are blued. The alloy frames are anodized with Duty Treat (ferritic nitrocarburized) stainless slides. The all-steel guns are stainless steel with Duty Treat.

KyJim · June 21, 2013, 06:37 AM

A little more affordable than a Wilson would be a Les Baer Stinger. http://www.lesbaer.com/StingerSS.html. I have a Stinger which has a Bear Coat finish. Excellent pistol though I usually opt for my lightweight Dan Wesson CCO.

You're not going to get a whole lot of choices in the all stainless configuration because most folks use them as carry guns and go with an aluminum frame.

CORRECTION: Didn't notice the 9mm requirement. The Baer Stinger is .45 acp only.

Caz83 · June 21, 2013, 10:25 AM

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None of the Dan Wesson pistols are blued. The alloy frames are anodized with Duty Treat (ferritic nitrocarburized) stainless slides. The all-steel guns are stainless steel with Duty Treat.

I know. Blued is just easier to type and gets the point across. Laziness on my part LOL.

Andrewh · June 21, 2013, 11:00 AM

I have looked for many years for a 9mm cco.
there is only 1 current manufacture that builds them and it is nighthawk. t3 i think is the designation.
However, I can't justify spending 3k on a single pistol

there are a couple that are almost CCO's in that they use 4 inch barrels not 4.25.
STI has one and one other, I can't remember at the moment.

DW ECO is really just a 9mm officers pistol.

both of these are in the 1400 range.

Fusion will build you one for around 1600 last time I priced them out.

There was a report of someone having the commander size slide from RIA fitted at RIA on the RIA officer size 9mm.
They have gone to true 4.25 inch barrels, but still use the bull barrel setup.

Caz83 · June 21, 2013, 11:12 AM

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CORRECTION: Didn't notice the 9mm requirement. The Baer Stinger is .45 acp only.

Les Baer makes a Super Stinger in 38 super. with optional chrome or DuPont S finish. Better than 9 for CCW. Very nice IMO.

BigJimP · June 21, 2013, 12:46 PM

Nighthawk is not the only mfg that will make a gun with these specs ...or darn close to it .....Wilson Combat has a number of models in the Compact line with 4" and 4.1" barrels...at around 7.6" long overall, a height of 4.9" to 5.2" ...from $ 3,250 - $ 4,000 or so ....CQB Compact, is probably your best option, in my opinion - and you can have it made in all stainless and 9mm...Bill Wilson Carry is another model ...and the Stealth model ...are also good options in my view - if you don't want a full sized gun.

They are a little more money than Nighthawk ...but better guns than Nighthawk in my view...

HKFan9 · June 22, 2013, 01:47 AM

STI makes a ton of 4'' 9mms

I have the 5'' STI Tactical SS 9mm... its amazing.

Jrsteeno · June 22, 2013, 08:51 AM

I was at Cabelas yesterday and saw an STI Spartan 4" in 9mm, although it's parkerized not stainless. $699

Jim243 · June 22, 2013, 09:11 AM

Kimber, check their web-site out.

Jim

TacticalDefense1911 · June 24, 2013, 09:34 AM

STI Guardian.

**Spats McGee** · June 24, 2013, 11:59 AM

I don't guess it's CCO, but the STI Duty 4.0 caught my eye the other day.

KyJim · June 26, 2013, 11:02 PM

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STI Guardian.

I wonder if the frame is stainless underneath the finish coating?

loose_holster_dan · June 27, 2013, 07:40 AM

guys, the big catch is the CCO part of his requirement. a ton of people make 9 in commander or officers. very few make the CCO in 9mm and stainless.

Dashunde · June 28, 2013, 06:18 PM

Well damn.. everything that is 4.25" long and 4" tall is well over $1500.
$1500 is even a stretch, for that money I should go with the bona fide 1911 I've been itching for for years... a DW Valor. (I'm taking donations)

The Guardian did catch my attention, so I'm happy to modify my list... How about this...

4.25" long x 4" tall - I do want a Commander slide on a Officer frame.
Still 9mm
Stainless, alloy, black, whatever... so long as the black finish is truly durable I don’t care.
I was wanting simple stainless because its easy to refinish or media blast.

I guess, after looking around, that CCO in 9mm would probably pry my wallet open...

June 20, 2013, 09:03 AM	#1
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2004 Posts: 2,021	Who makes it? 9mm 1911 The recent review of the Dan Wesson CCO put me on the hunt for a similar 1911... Who makes a 9mm 1911 with a Commander slide on a Officer frame in all-stainless?

June 20, 2013, 01:43 PM	#2
Caz83 Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 125	Good question. Nothing really comes to mind except having one custom built. Main reason could be is that the Commander slide/officer frame is meant as a carry/SD weapon. Ideally in low light situations, you would want a flat black/ blued carry vs a stainless steel finish due to the light that will mirror and glare off of the SS finish giving the "bad guy" your position + it's harder to conceal. I would assume this is the reason why the Dan Wesson guardian, CCO, ECO are all blued with Night sights. Here's more info. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470565 Last edited by Caz83; June 20, 2013 at 02:16 PM.

June 21, 2013, 06:37 AM	#5
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,149	A little more affordable than a Wilson would be a Les Baer Stinger. http://www.lesbaer.com/StingerSS.html. I have a Stinger which has a Bear Coat finish. Excellent pistol though I usually opt for my lightweight Dan Wesson CCO. You're not going to get a whole lot of choices in the all stainless configuration because most folks use them as carry guns and go with an aluminum frame. CORRECTION: Didn't notice the 9mm requirement. The Baer Stinger is .45 acp only. Last edited by KyJim; June 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM.

June 24, 2013, 11:59 AM	#14
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,840	I don't guess it's CCO, but the STI Duty 4.0 caught my eye the other day. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

June 28, 2013, 06:18 PM	#17
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2004 Posts: 2,021	Well damn.. everything that is 4.25" long and 4" tall is well over $1500. $1500 is even a stretch, for that money I should go with the bona fide 1911 I've been itching for for years... a DW Valor. (I'm taking donations) The Guardian did catch my attention, so I'm happy to modify my list... How about this... 4.25" long x 4" tall - I do want a Commander slide on a Officer frame. Still 9mm Stainless, alloy, black, whatever... so long as the black finish is truly durable I don’t care. I was wanting simple stainless because its easy to refinish or media blast. I guess, after looking around, that CCO in 9mm would probably pry my wallet open... Last edited by Dashunde; June 29, 2013 at 09:41 AM.

June 20, 2013, 03:28 PM	#3
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Wilson combat has a number of models that will meet that spec....and an all stainless finish is an option on most of their models. I have full sized, 5", Protector Model....in 9mm from Wilson that I've had for about 6 yrs....its a great gun / my primary range practice gun - where my primary carry gun is the same gun in .45acp... http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...0&d=1357338028 ( the all stainless Wilson, is 2nd gun up from bottom / the bottom one is my 5" carry gun - Wilson CQB model )....Les Baer at top left is also a 9mm but its a 5" Monolith model / and gun at far right, top is a Kimber Tactical Pro II model, 4", alloy frame in 9mm as well...the others are .45 acp... ----------- I prefer Wilson's for my 1911's...over Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Les Baer, etc...but other companies like Colt, etc have made 1911's in 9mm for a long time...

June 21, 2013, 11:00 AM	#7
Andrewh Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 1999 Posts: 966	I have looked for many years for a 9mm cco. there is only 1 current manufacture that builds them and it is nighthawk. t3 i think is the designation. However, I can't justify spending 3k on a single pistol there are a couple that are almost CCO's in that they use 4 inch barrels not 4.25. STI has one and one other, I can't remember at the moment. DW ECO is really just a 9mm officers pistol. both of these are in the 1400 range. Fusion will build you one for around 1600 last time I priced them out. There was a report of someone having the commander size slide from RIA fitted at RIA on the RIA officer size 9mm. They have gone to true 4.25 inch barrels, but still use the bull barrel setup.

June 21, 2013, 12:46 PM	#9
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Nighthawk is not the only mfg that will make a gun with these specs ...or darn close to it .....Wilson Combat has a number of models in the Compact line with 4" and 4.1" barrels...at around 7.6" long overall, a height of 4.9" to 5.2" ...from $ 3,250 - $ 4,000 or so ....CQB Compact, is probably your best option, in my opinion - and you can have it made in all stainless and 9mm...Bill Wilson Carry is another model ...and the Stealth model ...are also good options in my view - if you don't want a full sized gun. They are a little more money than Nighthawk ...but better guns than Nighthawk in my view...

June 22, 2013, 01:47 AM	#10
HKFan9 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Posts: 3,057	STI makes a ton of 4'' 9mms I have the 5'' STI Tactical SS 9mm... its amazing.

June 22, 2013, 08:51 AM	#11
Jrsteeno Junior Member Join Date: December 12, 2012 Posts: 2	I was at Cabelas yesterday and saw an STI Spartan 4" in 9mm, although it's parkerized not stainless. $699

June 22, 2013, 09:11 AM	#12
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	Kimber, check their web-site out. Jim

June 24, 2013, 09:34 AM	#13
TacticalDefense1911 Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,277	STI Guardian.

June 27, 2013, 07:40 AM	#16
loose_holster_dan Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 2,461	guys, the big catch is the CCO part of his requirement. a ton of people make 9 in commander or officers. very few make the CCO in 9mm and stainless.