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Cheapo · September 23, 1999, 05:35 PM

Carbide and Titanium Nitride dies for straight-wall cases require no lubrication more from their short bearing surfaces, than from the low-friction nature of the carbide or Ti-Ni.

I've used a .30 Carbine carbide die and trust me, if you don't lube the cases, you'll have one stuck within 10 repetitions of the exercise.

If you get carbide or Ti-Ni dies for full-length sizing a bottleneck cartridge, count of using case lube. You'll need less, and it will be easier to cycle the handle (a bit less friction).

If your .308 dies have neither a carbide neck expander, nor a long cylindrical type, you will also need a neck lube device. The button-type expander balls can pull the entire neck forward a few thousandths (changing the angle of the last bit of the shoulder) if the friction gets too great.

The collet die truly works without lube because it applied radial pressure inward after all insertion motions (into a roomy collet) have ceased. Totally different mode of operation.

HTH.

Feel free to post additional questions. The crew here at TFL will keep you in the ways of truth and righteousness.

[This message has been edited by Cheapo (edited September 23, 1999).]

September 23, 1999, 05:35 PM	#5
Cheapo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 1998 Posts: 986	Carbide and Titanium Nitride dies for straight-wall cases require no lubrication more from their short bearing surfaces, than from the low-friction nature of the carbide or Ti-Ni. I've used a .30 Carbine carbide die and trust me, if you don't lube the cases, you'll have one stuck within 10 repetitions of the exercise. If you get carbide or Ti-Ni dies for full-length sizing a bottleneck cartridge, count of using case lube. You'll need less, and it will be easier to cycle the handle (a bit less friction). If your .308 dies have neither a carbide neck expander, nor a long cylindrical type, you will also need a neck lube device. The button-type expander balls can pull the entire neck forward a few thousandths (changing the angle of the last bit of the shoulder) if the friction gets too great. The collet die truly works without lube because it applied radial pressure inward after all insertion motions (into a roomy collet) have ceased. Totally different mode of operation. HTH. Feel free to post additional questions. The crew here at TFL will keep you in the ways of truth and righteousness. [This message has been edited by Cheapo (edited September 23, 1999).]