Well, just placed my order for 1,000 .45 230g RN and 500 .380 95g RN.......plus some MTM ammo boxes (prices looked too good to pass on), so I'll see how they shoot. The shipping charges are only around $10.00.......if I was headed that way I'd pick them up, but since I'm not going that way in the next few days I'd probably spend that on gas money anyway. See ya on the gun range