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And I have done a lot of shooting .25 automatics in years past. I shot Brownings, Berettas, Colts and Astras-good guns. Nothing I saw indicated a quality .25 with good ammunition would bounce off a pants rivet. Maybe from an oversize bore or with bad ammunition. I saw a woman shot 5 times with a .25 in the torso. The bullets penetrated very well. (She lived, BTW.)
I also know someone who was shot in the chest at 8 feet with a 12 ga. He ran 35 yards before he dropped from blood loss. He lived, too. I knew the man who shot him.
Just food for thought.
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