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Originally Posted by Fetish636
AHHH Yes that's it thank you! Deluxe it is!! lol
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Lee Precision makes two models of 4-hole auto-indexing turret presses. (Lee makes the only auto-indexing turret presses on the market, by the way.)
They are the Lee Classic Turret and the Lee Deluxe Turret. The Classic is superior to the Deluxe but is a bit more expensive. Kempf's assembles a nice kit around the Classic Turret you should check out.
The two presses operate at the same speed, share many of the same parts and use the same operating mode and technique.
But there are differences.
Evolution: The Classic Turret is the newer design of the two.
Durability: The Classic Turret's base is cast iron, the Deluxe is cast aluminum. Iron wears better than the softer metal, aluminum.
Ease of use: The Deluxe has a smaller vertical opening than the Classic Turret. Though either is capable of taking long rifle cartridges, the Classic Turret will take longer ones and if you have big hands is the clear winner
Spent Primer Handling: The Deluxe drops primers out of a slot in the ram to fall into a cavity inside the press base. But only about 90% succeed in their intended journey. The Classic drops primers down the center of the hollow ram and into a clear plastic tube which can contain a few hundred primers or be directed into a receptacle of your choice. The difference in the behavior of the debris (products of combustion) from the spent primers is even more striking. With the Deluxe, you wind up with primer detritus all over and have to dismount the press and sweep up the pile of spent primers every several hundred rounds.
More on Durability: The Deluxe ram is smaller than the Classic's ram. This gives a much different bearing surface for the ram to be guided as if moves up and down. The Classic press will last much longer because of the increased surface area and because iron is tougher than aluminum.
Even more on Durability: The Deluxe's linkage is aluminun and stampings. The Classic's linkage is more robust. I believe the leverage on both is the same.
So, in summary;
The Deluxe is aluminum, spills spent primers and has a slightly smaller opening (which you may find important when loading long cartridges or long bullets. Unfortunately, Kempf's is the only seller I know of who assembles a kit containing the Classic Turret. Most of the other kits are built around the Deluxe.
I think that's about it.
Good luck.
Lost Sheep