i got to fire off a sawed off 12 ga sxs, 8" barrel, no but stock.
big heavy rip your arm off pistol, especialy if you let somebody talk you into pulling both triggers at once!
i have a sxs 12ga that is sawed off to 18.5"-ish. the pattern opens up fast, and it is fast to maneuver in tight brush. its my favorite rabbit gun.