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Old August 1, 2013, 01:08 AM   #47
Frank Ettin
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Originally Posted by horselips
Now, now. Relax. If you had a truly open mind, you would be intrigued, and you would feel compelled to strap on a bullet-proof vest and have someone fire a .44 magnum at your chest....
Nonsense --
  1. I am relaxed, but I really am not fond of people using unverifiable claims when discussing important matters.

  2. Having an open mind is not the same as being gullible. One may reject unsubstantiated claims without necessarily being closed minded. Having an open mind means essentially being willing to consider evidence of something -- not being willing to accept something without evidence.

  3. There is nothing to be intrigued about. Verifiable data can be intriguing. Myth and fable are not, at least when dealing with real life issues.

  4. No, I do not feel compelled to strap on a bullet-proof vest and have someone shoot me. However, I suspect that any number of people have been shot while wearing ballistic vests, and there is probably a body of actual data. That data would be interesting. Your myth is not.

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Originally Posted by horselips
...That's what a true scientist would do...
How would you know?

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Originally Posted by horselips
...Or, you could just believe me. Or not. Or whatever.
Why would I believe you? You've given me no reason to.

On the other hand, based on this discussion I would not accept anything you might claim without solid, verifiable evidence. As Carl Saga said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
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