If there is a failure, the gun isn't to be trusted and it goes to a place I like to call, elsewhere. But that's just me....
I just recently went through the "when can I consider it reliable" question with my PT709. After over 300 trouble free rounds using 3 different brands of ammo, I think it's good to go.
With my Sigs and Glocks, a couple mags and I called them good.
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