Heres the range report if anyone is interested. From 4.8gr - 5.6gr unique, Everything normal. At 5.8 gr The primer showed the slightest hint of cratering. At 6gr the cratering is pronounced,I stopped at that point & standardized load at 5.8gr. The load consist of 115gr(northern light) fmj,WSP primers,FC cases, & COL of 1.140. Fired out of a Marlin Camp carbine, at 25yds the groups were silver dollar sized. No muzzle flash & moderate recoil. This load is Lee's starting point & .7 gr over Hornady's Max. Yes the unique was dirty!