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**Mike Irwin** · December 29, 2012, 04:28 PM

I have a Smith & Wesson 3000 police gun as my house gun. It takes 2 3/4" shells.

I have it loaded with 5 rounds of Remington No. 4 buck.

In a sleeve carrier on the stock I have another 5 rounds of S&B 00 buck. It's different from most other 00 buckshot loads in that it has 12 pellets, not the traditional 9. They get the extra three pellets in the shell by using a roll crimp and a disintegrating plastic top wad.

Recoil from that load is substantially higher than with standard buckshot loads with folded crimps.

I'd like to find some No. 4 with a roll crimp.

December 29, 2012, 04:28 PM	#15
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,381	I have a Smith & Wesson 3000 police gun as my house gun. It takes 2 3/4" shells. I have it loaded with 5 rounds of Remington No. 4 buck. In a sleeve carrier on the stock I have another 5 rounds of S&B 00 buck. It's different from most other 00 buckshot loads in that it has 12 pellets, not the traditional 9. They get the extra three pellets in the shell by using a roll crimp and a disintegrating plastic top wad. Recoil from that load is substantially higher than with standard buckshot loads with folded crimps. I'd like to find some No. 4 with a roll crimp. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.