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The 38 Super was labeled +P for years to separate it from the older, weaker, but dimensionally similar 38 ACP. The Super also came in nickel cases to instantly tell it apart from the 38 ACP in brass casings. The lawyers made them do this so that Super ammo wouldn't be loaded into a 38 ACP by mistake. But this was apparently not enough.
A few years ago I noticed factory Supers with brass cases. I found by using my chronograph that the ammo companies had reduced the load to the level of the 38 ACP. The lawyers won again and the Super was no longer Super.
In the day the Super was a 130 FMJ at 1280 FPS. The last box of Winchesters I clocked went 1080, same as the 38 ACP. Sad state of affairs. I load 115 JHPs to 1350 in my Supers.
By the way, I have guys call me a liar, saying Supers are the same load now as they were in years past. The critics are wrong. I have been shooting Supers for many years and clocking factory loads. I know the truth.
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