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Unlicensed Dremel · August 4, 2014, 11:23 AM

The only thing I can think of is, possibly, for this "marketing plan", is that they built it strong enough for smokeless powder, but don't want to kill sales with a NICS check, so they sell it as a non-firearm, then they hope that word gets out eventually as people start to try it (against their written advice), and find out that it can handle smokeless just fine; then they sell a lot of them later on, as a Savage 10 performance-equivalent, having the advantage of no-NICS check relative to the T/C Encore and Savage 10 (well the Savage 10 is discontinued ain't it?). Long shot theory, and probably NOT what they are thinking, but maybe. Otherwise, I do see it as a setup for likely failure. Still, I'd take one if given to me, to try some hot loads with "duplexed saboted" (nested sabots) with 195 gr Precision .357 bullets. That would truly be a long-range ML rig.

August 4, 2014, 11:23 AM	#9
Unlicensed Dremel Junior member Join Date: February 13, 2014 Location: Flathead Valley, MT Posts: 2,187	The only thing I can think of is, possibly, for this "marketing plan", is that they built it strong enough for smokeless powder, but don't want to kill sales with a NICS check, so they sell it as a non-firearm, then they hope that word gets out eventually as people start to try it (against their written advice), and find out that it can handle smokeless just fine; then they sell a lot of them later on, as a Savage 10 performance-equivalent, having the advantage of no-NICS check relative to the T/C Encore and Savage 10 (well the Savage 10 is discontinued ain't it?). Long shot theory, and probably NOT what they are thinking, but maybe. Otherwise, I do see it as a setup for likely failure. Still, I'd take one if given to me, to try some hot loads with "duplexed saboted" (nested sabots) with 195 gr Precision .357 bullets. That would truly be a long-range ML rig.