garyfdl - I am not sure that I "need" a scope, but the Express Slug comes with the "cantilever system." As far as I can tell, this has no sights, just a scope mount. Thank you for your advice on the red dot, I hadn't thought of that option. I like the idea of that for low light situations. I don't know the rules on illuminated sights for hunting in Illinois, but I will defiantly look into it.